Game12 Clint vs Dave's team

[Clint]

Just checking in guys - best of luck and have fun.

Clint (player)

[happymadcat]

Thanks :) We're hoping you might have a couple of specail services during the
game! So how long does it take you to write the orders for 12 nations?

Guy CL

[VEO]

Clint has 12, vs who and how many?

Regards,

Defeated Brad of 80

[Overworked1977]

Does this mean that T0 is going to run today (Thursday)?

Oh, I hope...I really hope so! *grin*

Wade

[Halex13]

Is it Clint we're playing or Sybil, :)

[happymadcat]

Wade,

Are you in this game? Thought we were playing only multi personality Clint..

Guy

[happymadcat]

Brad,

10 players and yes we know its going to be 1 tough cookie..

Guy

[Overworked1977]

Guy,

I was part of the FP in PWR 2. Now looking for a shot at DS.

Wade

Damn...Just remembered. Today is Wednesday. So, are we going to get T0 tomorrow then?

[Clint]

Nah just me on me lonesome, Sybil can't play.

Clint (player)

[VEO]

Have fun gent's..!

[DaveHolt]

I'm not sure what this set of posts is all about. Must be a different Dave
than me?

[happymadcat]

You got it Dave, Clint is playing Dave Tasker's Team007..

Guy

[DaveHolt]

*whew*

thanks Guy. Given that we were trying to get a game going and i had submitted a team proposal that included a lot of folks who posted on this thread, i was mightly confused!

[Overworked1977]

Uhm....Damn!
I REALLY wanted this to be about the new PWR game.

Oh-well...Blonde moment.

Wade

[Clint]

LOL ;)

Part of why I try to post with (GM) or (Player) after it. I think that playing 2 turns a week and all 12 nations would be a bit of a strain... ;) Maybe next time uh!? :D

Clint (player)

Apologies for any confusion...

Clint (GM)

[Halex13]

Watch how confused you get when you play us, LOL

[happymadcat]

Only if you spread your wisdom Halex, hell it confuses me let alone the enemy! :p

[Halex13]

Ahhhhhh, spreadable wisdom, as we all eat of the sandwich of knowledge, and digest the intelect of others, and secrete the feces of most, :) swallow that, LOL

[Clint]

Good play with 1st turn in 12 but no suprises yet.

I'm more conservative in my approach. Plod to victory me... Luckily no actual errors, but one tactical improvement I've noticed already.

Guess I know where Angulion started then! :p

Clint (player)

[mgrazebrook]

I hope you've got some interesting and unorthodox ideas waiting for us.

[Clint]

Nope - just plain boring troops and attack. Simplest is best.

Clint (player) LOL :p

[VEO]

Actually, :p and LOL aside, he actually means it...boring troops and attack. He means it, meanly..

Vanquished Brad

[Halex13]

Hey Clint,

I heard you have a private chat-room where you and your "team" meet and discuss stratagy, with much dis-agreement, :)

[happymadcat]

Yep Brad, we know Clint's game.. All attack. Lovely

[Clint]

Nah I get the best form of confrontation - confusion is rampant. Did I send gold to the South Gondor this turn that sort of thing.

Clint (player)

[Clint]

Mixed turn - looks like you've gone for the gambit up North - should be interesting that one. Not sure splitting the cavalry is best but there you go. We shall see.

Wonder how your agents are doing? :D How's the artefact hunt going? 5:1 deaths for the good guys! :cool:

Militarily I'd say you're ahead (pains me to say it) but there you go... :o Nice reveal - I suspected as much but decided to do unto you what you do unto me! ;) Sauron doesn't help much - although I've had Galadriel, Gandalf, Saruman and Sauron now in 2 turns! :eek:

Anyone ever stopped food going to 2 on turn 1?

Clint

[happymadcat]

Food prices are nice! :p We're going to even out the character defecit on turn 3
don't you worry! So you've packed the stumpies army at DG with loads of
fragile war machines. Will be interesting to see the outcome.

Its going to be a long road to victory, maybe we should change this game from every 2 weeks to a power game! Dear ol Clint doing 24 turns in a week!
LOL

Guy CL

[thuiatt]

Just finished a game where food never got to 2, turn one or turn 2. Nice job freeps. Game ended at 17? turns with food never hitting two.

tim

[Ian Etchells]

Militarily I'd say you're ahead (pains me to say it) but there you go... :o Nice reveal - I suspected as much but decided to do unto you what you do unto me! ;) Sauron doesn't help much - although I've had Galadriel, Gandalf, Saruman and Sauron now in 2 turns! :eek:

Anyone ever stopped food going to 2 on turn 1?

Clint

I knew I could not hold you initially in Mirkwood but the Sinda without a city is fair compensation...now where did I put that dragon? :p

Ian - DrL

[Clint]

We got Clint on the ropes, he just doesn't know it yet, Can someone convince him to surrender before it gets ugly, LOL

Something like. Interesting game so far. Just the 3 mistakes this turn from me... :( Cor - 12 nations is HARD! (Enjoying the challenge).

Ah well - hopefully this turn I can actually spend some time on my turns rather than the last minute rush.... ;)

Well food back to 1 so that's an improvement.

Clint (player)

[happymadcat]

Like the 3120 move Clint even though you should have never got that far. Is
this attack worth losing 2924 over? Kudos to Mahcared for diverting Ji's
dagger thrust..

Guy/CL

[Clint]

2924!!!! Are you joking? With what?! 3024 now that's a deader... :-) Bit like the remnants of the Harad.

Clint (player)

[happymadcat]

Time will tell Clint... Must admit you got us worried for a few minutes with Bain
and Tarandor turning up at 3120. How good will they be without their toys?

[happymadcat]

Hmmm, I wonder what it would be like to play all 12 nations, quite
interested. Would there be any financial reduction in costs or would it be full
whack?

[Clint]

Reduced cost - if there's any teams with 4 or less players you get reduced cost. Upto 33% off.

Clint (GM)

[happymadcat]

So for a 1 player team thats around 40 quid a turn if using Automagic? Can you
see the challenge coming? Lol

[vandal]

Well I do hold the record at 6 turns for one to one

Vandal

[happymadcat]

6 turns for one to one???

[vandal]

Indeed

Vandal

[happymadcat]

A win in 6 turns? Hmm, who were you playing? Mentally making a note not to
play you 1 to 1.. :-)

[vandal]

Oh come on Clints only passe and already given up on me, dont you run either.

Who did I play well Muller the mighty, or he was before I cut him down

Vandal

[happymadcat]

Hmmm, might play you if just for the learning experience.. And I wouldnt
call myself mighty so beating me wouldnt cut me down to size. Hehe

[vandal]

Well you might be a dwarf in disguise so cutting you down might be hard anyway

But feel free to take me on, I asm awlays open to any challange.

Vandal

[happymadcat]

Ok, but its got to be an 2 months after my exams. Long story, changing career.. Hey, I've got an idea, how about I get a 1 turn start on you.:p

[vandal]

Well if I am free then challange me

Vandal

[Ian Etchells]

Didn't feel confident at Dol G? Just killed my little wee army, just like I killed a wee little WM army and the Sinda city it was on :-) Like the new reveal :-)

Nice job on the arties though.

[Clint]

Sorry I thought I was playing the military game and you guys the long slow economic game... :-) LOL ;)

Don't think you've seen anything yet on the artefact front... :D I guess that means you've finally got some Locates going uh?! :eek:

Not sure that Harad is long for this game either but if you'd be kind enough to leave the Eothraim alone for a couple of turns that would be great.

Sindar is doing fine - ironically it's been such a different game in that area to what I planned that I've just had to punt and hope. Rhudaur cavalry move was interesting but I think slightly too short term.

Any chance we can just post about this game on this thread please guys? There's plenty of space for other posts elsewhere... :p


Clint (player)

[Er Murazor]

Hello from Quiet Avenger ... curious name for a Nation which (in this game) is being quite the way round! Nothing quiet, Southern Area is by far, the one with most movement. NG SG Corsairs and Sinda in a global offensive against Harad. So far by my side I have been quite successful, I have sunk one Corsairs Navy commanded by the Almighty Angamaite!! I loose my Hero as well, but you know, in this Grudge games DS navies are worth nothing. I have also won the only one battle against ground Corsair forces and this turn I face two more. Oh yes, nice movement challenging Thergor, however it's just that if you sly my characters I will just make more :) never played QA before and honestly is so so so nice seeing your emissairs growing and growing ... and well I'm sorry Tirn Harn did not surrender to your Corsair Lord, a pitty you wasted your time there, if you want to pay us a visit again, please let us know, we will order more beer and meat to prepare the proper reception for such distinguished personalities instead of pushing you away :)

By the way! Who is playing Corsairs?
Ricard
Qa.-

[happymadcat]

Er, Clint is playing the Corsiars like everyother Freep nation.... Some people
are soooo greedy! Lol

[mgrazebrook]

As the Dog Lord, I'm greatly enjoying picking on the Eothraim. Why should I stop? I see you've been working hard on your economies, Clint.

[happymadcat]

Good luck Clint!

[Clint]

You guys too

Clint

[happymadcat]

Well played Clint, throwing everything at the North Gate so quickly. In all
these years I've never seen so many Freep troops in the North Gate area
from so many different Freep nations. :-)

[Clint]

Like I said - bland, recruit, attack. Rinse, repeat :p Not actually seen my turns yet...

I like the pick 'n' mix option myself. On of the strengths of playing all 12 is making sure that everyone gets where they are supposed to (if I get the orders right!) and no wrangling.... :D

Clint (player)

[happymadcat]

That is the benefit of the 1 player team system Clint:) Guess the downside
is a couple of sleepless nights doing all the orders and the price of crates
of coffee to keep you awake through those nights. Anyway, well played :eek:

Guy

[Clint]

Just the two awful mistakes this turn - ah well :D At this rate in two turns time it will be none. By then no doubt I'll have killed a nation. :D :p

Not quite sure what you guys are up to in WK land - looks like you're trying to keep your armies alive as long as possible! :eek:

Should be interesting at Morannon this turn and the onslaught against the Eothriam continues - that's another non-army guy you've killed now... :cool: Maybe you'll actually take an army out soon uh? :p

Clint (player)

[Ian Etchells]

Subordinate : My Lord Duran we have beaten that Sinda army that was in our way
Duran : Great Elf ear stew for supper tonight. Right I give you the honour to lead our troops onto the Sinda capital
Subordinate : Thankyou my Lord, most kind and generous Lord (grovel, grovel, grovel)

days later......

Duran : Well we should be there by now, where the Sauron are we?
Subordinate : Mmmmyyyy Lord it appears we are lost
Duran : LOST! You mean we are not going to burn the Sinda out of these woods
Subordinate : Errrr not this week my Lord
Duran : Right lads off with his head!!!

That what comes of going ne instead of nw....well looks like a reprieve for a turn for the Sinda but next turn.......

[Clint]

That what comes of going ne instead of nw....well looks like a reprieve for a turn for the Sinda but next turn.......

Wouldn't I have blocked him anyway? Something that did go as planned.

If I had to rate my play for each nation then (so far over the turns):

NMen :cool: No errors
Dunlendings ;) No errors
Woodmen :p One error
Noldo No errors
Arth :No errors
Card :rolleyes: One minor error
Sindar :eek: URGH - loadsa errors
Dwarves One error
SG :confused: Fun but one error
Eothraim :( argh

...long way to...
NG :eek: arghh
...even longer way to....
Corsair (though moments of greatness some awesome errors as well!) :( :mad:

Clint (player)

[happymadcat]

Well

CL :( but none of it was my fault; honest :o
Like the FK move into the backfield of Gondor? Didnt really think we were
2924 obssessed?

I can't speak for the other besides,

LR :) (he won't mind the plug)
QA :D (now don't get a big head Ricard)
DkLts & DogL well I won't even go there or they will be sending me loads
of nasty stories. Lol

Guy

[Clint]

Like the FK move into the backfield of Gondor? Didnt really think we were
2924 obssessed?

Did very similar move in our GM Grudge game so - yes I do... ;) It all depends on the impact it has in the end though of course. The beauty of NG is it has so many PCs to give to its enemies that... well I'll shut up now....

Clint (player)

[Halex13]

Ummmmm, with your error report, can you post your orders for next turn as-well????? :)

[Clint]

Sure - Morannon - destroy PC for starters... ;)

Clint (player)

[happymadcat]

Yep, my idea on moving into the back of NG.. Tine so wanted to wait for a
dragon to take out 2924 but I talked her out of it.. NG has'nt got that many
pc's once you take out the NG's backyard... :p

You havent got enough to destory Morannon.. By all means try and die
on the walls. Saves the CL agents of having to get off their butt for a few
kidnaps.

Guy

[Ian Etchells]

You havent got enough to destory Morannon.. By all means try and die on the walls. Saves the CL agents of having to get off their butt for a few kidnaps.

Guy

Don't you mean the LR :D

[Ian Etchells]

That what comes of going ne instead of nw....well looks like a reprieve for a turn for the Sinda but next turn.......

Wouldn't I have blocked him anyway? Something that did go as planned.

Clint (player)

Maybe but it would of least been a 50/50 chance...anyway now I know for sure which army my pet will go to :p

[happymadcat]

Don't you mean the LR :D

No Dragonpoo I meant the CLOUD LORD! :p

[Halex13]

Ahhhhhhh, CL's just upset, he didn't get to wack anyone yet, WAAAAAAHHH

[happymadcat]

Thats it! You'll be sorry HaLex, I'm gping to post that pic of me in Aragorn's
costume on the site very soon!!! As the group picture!

[happymadcat]

Maybe but it would of least been a 50/50 chance...anyway now I know for sure which army my pet will go to :p

Pet? You havent taken the killer hamster out again DragonPoo? C'mon
it was exhasted after munching through that cockroach. Reporting you
to the RSPCA! :p

[Halex13]

Thats it! You'll be sorry HaLex, I'm gping to post that pic of me in Aragorn's
costume on the site very soon!!! As the group picture!

Maybe you should dress as Arwen, :confused: according to what the rest of the team says, :D

[happymadcat]

Lol, while Arwen for me is the sexiest girl in the universe, I want to be inside
her not be her.:p

[Ian Etchells]

Pet? You havent taken the killer hamster out again DragonPoo? C'mon it was exhasted after munching through that cockroach. Reporting you to the RSPCA! :p

Now your thinking of the game Balders Gate with the Space Hamster Boo! No I was thinking of Sleepy the Dwarf, he is prone to singing less than his 6 brothers and if he does start to get annoying then he can always be used as a snack inbetween Elves & WM :eek: Or was it that I want to keep to my namesake :rolleyes:

[Halex13]

Lol, while Arwen for me is the sexiest girl in the universe, I want to be inside
her not be her.:p


Ohhhhh, you mean like "Fantastic Voyage", man that Rachael Welch was hot tooooo ;)

[happymadcat]

Mmm Rachael..... What about Natasha Henstridge from Spieces? Nearly as
good as Laura Croft!

[Halex13]

Ahhhhh, but Kate Beckinsale, the "Underworld" and "Van Helsing" babe, can hunt me down, restrain, and do as she will to me anytime, :)

[happymadcat]

Hands off my Katie babes!

[Halex13]

I don't need to use my hands, LOL

[happymadcat]

Just for that she's all yours.. She's at.......... :p Gonna kick your butt
in total kidnaps and kills this game; 3:2 at game end! Lol :cool: :rolleyes:

[Halex13]

Well since you're letting me have Kate, I'll be to busy to 615 or 620, :)

[Er Murazor]

Hi there Clint,

I was sorry when I sunk Angamiate's navy killing him :(, and now I hope you don't get very angry with the frustrated assault on Jug Rijesha, indeed we will kindly send the remains Eadur's corpse (what is left after Mumakills overrun) to one of your MT, I guess Maros ... Now that I think of ... Maros will be assaulted, well then maybe we send it to Eradas ... uops !! better send it to your Capital? at least it will not be assaulted this turn. Anyway it seems you should leave Quiet Avenger alone, since everytime your pirates engage me they get hurt. :O

Ricard
Qa.-
:cool:

[Halex13]

Thanx for bringing us back to reality Ric, :o

[happymadcat]

Halex and reality?? Is there such a combination? Lol

[Halex13]

Look who's talking about unrealistic, You and my Kate, HAHAHAHAHAHA, will never happen, :p

[happymadcat]

Clint,

So Mr Bain is in arty heaven and prounces around Morannon's walls preparing
to intimidate the peace loving Orcs... Going to be hard without his toys. :p

Guy CL

[happymadcat]

Unlucky Clint, failing with Bain's threat and then bumping into the CL army at
3222.. Things look much better now at the North Gate.. Wonder if any DS
team would ever win without dragons?
Kudos for the Cardolan strike on Rhud, I was wrong thinking Rhud would have
1 turns grace from any Card attack. But thanks for Imaldris. :p

[Clint]

Turn 5: It's fine Morannon is going well - I think you've lost the nw now though.

Pain in the south with all those threatens failing but there you go. Nice to see the odd dragon turn up. ;)

How's the artefact hunt going? :D

Clint (player)

[Clint]

Have to admit 2wk turnaround is a killer though. Was up until 5am finishing the turns off last night.

Clint (player)

[happymadcat]

Can't we change it to a 2 turn a week turn around? Lol. The arty hunt is
going VERY well. You won't be getting many spirit arties for sure. :p Pity
about RoW and lucky for us you chose the wrong PC to intercept the
FK.. :D Tax levels that high in the NW so 1307 dissapears? Arthies and
Corsiars must be hurting with NG not far behind. Might still suprise you
in the NW... :p

[Ian Etchells]

Arty hunt is now going well, we are starting to beat you to many of the minor arties...LOL

Rhu asks if you can have Noldo send him the 10K that accidently went to supplement an Elven gang bang...LOL

[happymadcat]

Or atleast can we get ringside tickets?

[Er Murazor]

Wow wow, I haven't got many time to hav a proper look at my Quiet Avenger turn but .... Eradas and Maros are burned to the ground and Faltur Captured .... Well hope that did not hurt to much to Corsairs economy :)
What are you dogin with your cavalry army at my village? ... well keep burning my villages I will go on with your MT. Surprised with Malezar's destruction? jojojojo don't worry I got more for you!!
Ricard
Qa.-

[Clint]

Rhu asks if you can have Noldo send him the 10K that accidently went to supplement an Elven gang bang...LOL

Wondered where it came from. Haven't had a chance to read all the turns yet though.

Clint (player)

[happymadcat]

Well, do we get ringside tickets to the Elf gang bang or will we have to be
sastified in burning Imaldris and wiping out the Duns? Lol

[Clint]

I'll swop 2 towns for you destroying the Dunlendings army. As a game mechanic thing that was weird as well - looks like I'll have to re-analyse my thoughts on army moves. Something I like about the game, just as I think I've got it worked out something new comes up...

Clint (player)

[happymadcat]

Game mechanic, in what sense Clint old chum? Lol Wasn't it a simple
3-1 shot we would pin the Dun army? But now will you swap Imaldris and
the Dun army for 2 Rhud towns?:p

[happymadcat]

Hey Dinny Pants! Will you knock off any army comm's this turn instead of
going for the weakest and puniest Clint chars you can find? :p

Shame, I was so looking forward to watching that Elf gang bang and
now I'll just have to replace it with the latest Pink Panther 'Dinny pants
goes for a decent kill' Comedy.. Hey, I want my $ back! Lol

[happymadcat]

Clints gone a bit quiet, must have fully read his turns, stared into the palantir
and realised the truth.. Harad won't fall and the Corsiars are very close to
the end.. The North Gate is looking stickier for the Freeps and now
agent paranoia has set in. But granted Clint is doing well in the NW, all
the player transfer's up there has cost of us even tho the Arth have been
crippled. Here's to a good game! :)

[Halex13]

Hey Dinny Pants! Will you knock off any army comm's this turn instead of
going for the weakest and puniest Clint chars you can find? :p

Shame, I was so looking forward to watching that Elf gang bang and
now I'll just have to replace it with the latest Pink Panther 'Dinny pants
goes for a decent kill' Comedy.. Hey, I want my $ back! Lol



Did you imply his character or character(s) are weak and puny, :p Don't matter either way they all die, ;)

[Tine]

Yep, my idea on moving into the back of NG.. Tine so wanted to wait for a
dragon to take out 2924 but I talked her out of it.. NG has'nt got that many
pc's once you take out the NG's backyard...

I NEVER said I was waiting for a dragon to take out 2924!?! I was pondering about waiting for my next army...But that's long past now :)
Tine FK/IK - lonesome defender of the Pass

[Clint]

Having fun yet? - just the one mistake this turn - I forgot about the BS army... :p ;)

Clint (player)

[Ian Etchells]

Yes great fun :) The Dragon Lord turn was near perfect, just 1 failed order and i've still got Goblin Gate to play with :)

[happymadcat]

Fulla, Bain and Tarandor are taken out on turn 6... How many are you prepared
to lose next turn Clint? Its going to be double that atleast.... :D :p
And you still havent knocked out any DS nations out..

Guy CL

Ps.. How's the arty hunt going? Thanks for sending those agent arties
we missed into the fire... :)

[Clint]

Artefact hunt is going really well. Happy to assist with passing on the agent items. You're correct it's turn 6 and I've not taken anyone out yet - what are you expecting some to die? :eek: Scary...

I'll swop a character for a MT all the time... :confused: WK must be really hurting now. Losing a couple of characters a turn isn't really a lot is it? :p

Don't think either the Harad nor the Corsair have had a good game but well we'll see how things develop there. (Think you guys should have captured not destroyed the 2 MTs down south).

Dog Lord forgotten to recruit or something? Fk is a tad predicatable now might need another plan guys. :rolleyes:

Economy finally down the tubes... yea. (Just spotted another mistake - minor one - ah well).
Clint (player)

[happymadcat]

I'm expecting many to die next turn Clint... Every CL agent will be knifing
one of your characters next turn..:D

[happymadcat]

Artefact hunt is going really well. Happy to assist with passing on the agent items. You're correct it's turn 6 and I've not taken anyone out yet - what are you expecting some to die? :eek: Scary...

Clint (player)

Nope, but you promised on turn 4 to knock out a DS nation in the next
couple of turns.... Promises promises :rolleyes:

[Halex13]

I'm expecting many to die next turn Clint... Every CL agent will be knifing
one of your characters next turn..:D




Don't let him fool you Clint, I'm the one batting 1.000, right Fluffy, :)

[happymadcat]

Don't let him fool you Clint, I'm the one batting 1.000, right Fluffy, :)

Sure Dinny Pants... :p

[Ian Etchells]

The Mysterious Invisible Cup will be awarded at the end of the game to the nation with the most kills/kidnaps.

Clint can participate but its nation based not player based so he can't retire all his characters to win the Cup ;)

[happymadcat]

Ooooooooh, an invisible cup will go well with my invisible cabinet.... Just
have to find my invisible house first. If only I could remember but I can't
find my invisible brain..

[Er Murazor]

Clint, you should say Quiet Avenger area, since Harad and Corsairs have loost almost all the pops there. :)
On the other hand we destroy and not capture because we don't like your population names. Even though don't worry we will resettle the area.

Ricard
Qa.-

[happymadcat]

Clint,

Lucky Frumgara, pity about your other kidnapped characters... :p
Like the way you've transfered all the arties around.. :eek:
But your North Gate offensive has failed but you came pretty
close.. Kudos There won't be any Freep characters or armies at
3221 or 3120 next turn.. Mwahahahahahaha.

Guy

Ps Predictable move with Belechael's cavalry army..

[Ian Etchells]

From what i've seen so far that was the best DS turn of the game, lets hope that the next one is even better.

Ian

[happymadcat]

It will be...

[happymadcat]

Hey Clint,

No Freep banter this turn? Guess it takes times to digest 12 turns! :)

Guy CL

[Clint]

There's 12 of you, just one of me... :rolleyes:

You're all gonna die - there you go.

Clint (player)

[happymadcat]

But Clint we feel cheated, you promised us a DS eliminated by turn 4 and now
on turn 7 no DS are near being eliminated....:confused:

[Clint]

I think the quote was that in 2 turns time one of you should be dead... just to stick to reality... :D ;)

Heh it's hard playing 12, 2wks is a killer like I said, basically got my turns in the last minute nearly every turn now and that's causing errors... :o No excuses, there's some interesting moves afoot - not sure how much longer you guys can last in the NW. (Wish Sauron would stop turning up though, that's 3 times now!) Interesting move down south but I'm hoping that you guys are under some pressure in Mordor now. Belechael well - not really he could have gone up last turn and I suspect that you've been running around with agents a tad recently trying to catch him... ;)

Killers on your side are good, the rest well we'll see... ;) How come your killers don't bounce (mostly) and mine do uh.... you got a link to Rob or sumink!!! (LOL)

Nice to see that you're passing on the odd porky pie to mis-inform, you been playing with anyone devious recently? :p Luckily enough I trust not the words, just the actions...

Clint (player)

[happymadcat]

Clinty!

Aaaawwwww, we're gonna die! Hold on, most of us are dead already so
throw all you can at us Clint ol boy... Ji was shocked when he heard
you saying he was still alive.. Gonna have to send fluffy to a dead therapist..
:eek:

Yep, that one of you is going to die quote was on turn 2, but we forgive
you! Lol You're agents arent doing their job because of their low agent
ranks even with the agent arties.. Pity you missed the curse arties but
we're happy you are chasing them.. Looking forward to crushing the
Noldo agent squad.. :p

You ready for our curse squads??? :D :D

Guy

[Tine]

There's 12 of you, just one of me... :rolleyes:

You're all gonna die - there you go.

Clint (player)

LOL can you repeat that please? maybe try in Japaneese so we don't understand so we don't laught at? Right now the only one dying are Corsairs characters, well now also inhabitants.

Ricard
QA from Tine's computer :D

[happymadcat]

The Cloud Lord lays out the red carpet and prepares a banquet at Kal Nargil
for our sweet Noldo friends.....

[happymadcat]

Clint,

You're very lucky to have lost no more characters, 1 huge typo order
mistake saved one of your army comm's.. No such luck for Elladan,
Gain, Halbarad, Falin and Esteslmo however.. Your armies shall NOT
pass into Mordor.

As many will join them next turn... :cool:
Guy CL

[Clint]

Yeh, nice on the agent front. :mad: Not sure how you're pulling off so many but there you go... ;)

Could do better on economy, characters, artefacts, armies and pop centres.

:D

Made some mistakes myself so swings and roundabouts. ;)

Clint (player)

[happymadcat]

Should have taken 2 more out then I did, my bad.. We're doing very
well on the arties (besides the agent arties), characters are ok.. Armies
and pc's is pretty bad though I agree.. :eek:

I'll rephrase, next turn you will lose more army comm's then turn 8..... I
hope you got some serious guards with those huge armies!! :D The
journey ends for them here.

Cloud Lord

[Er Murazor]

Clint, I see you don't learn, coming to visit me will only repport pain to you :D
Do you really believe you have something to do in my pops?

Ricard
Qa.-

[happymadcat]

Its a total piece of luck, where ever the CL agents are so are Clint characters,
couldnt been better if I planned it... Ahem.. ;) Its going to be a bloodbath
next turn... :D

[mgrazebrook]

I can't claim Guy's murderous success rate, but we're running out of space on Morannon's walls for more trophies.

Could we have a few more suicide attacks this turn too, please? We've just built a small extension on the West Tower with room for a few hundred more heads and a special trophy spike for their leader.

Almost as much fun as challenges, but the Free always run away.

[happymadcat]

Give it 3 more turns and you will see a murderous CL rate, until then I'm
just warming up..

CL

[Er Murazor]

Give it 3 more turns and you will see a murderous CL rate, until then I'm
just warming up..

CL


BLAH BLAH BLAH GAY INDUR

[happymadcat]

BLAH BLAH BLAH GAY INDUR

He's fluffy and likes wearing pink dresses but isnt gay. So there :rolleyes:

[Ian Etchells]

Just a sad geezer who has never been happy in his entire afterlife

[happymadcat]

Ji says he's happy wearing pink fluffy dresses dancing on the bodies of Clint's
characters but I believe he's just misunderstood.. I ain't going to argue
with him however! Lol.

Good luck all (besides Clint who hopefully will ss!) with the turns...

[Ian Etchells]

Cirdan gets injured attempting a kidnap then has his little ring stolen from him...hehehehehehe Clint guess i'll just have to show you how to use it properly :)

[Er Murazor]

Yeah! and wilwarin was killed in challenge by Malezar ... nice item that Collowesta!! :D

Regards
Ricard
Qa.-

[happymadcat]

Wohoo! Alandur, Gaerandil and Herubrand join the ranks of the missing or killed
FP chars.. The roll of the dice wasn't kind for the rest, but still a good turn!

Having problems Clint?

CL

Ps Good military play with the Corsiars.. :)

[Clint]

Bit careless - joys of 12 nations... :-) Nice to see that you guys no longer have that problem though. :D

Clint (player)

[happymadcat]

And the Mantle of Doriath falls into DS hands!:p Thats alot of good arties
to lose in one turn! Ouch :D :D

[mgrazebrook]

Thanks for the Dwarven head. It graces our West Tower extention wonderfully. The stench as the wind comes from the west is keeping our orcs quite perky.

We're rather hoping you'll give us a number of new heroic heads this turn, but if only one, could we please have someone with rank commander or above? There are serious issues of prestige amongst the garrison sub-commanders involved...

[Clint]

Hya guys - how goes the (losing) war?! :D ;)

Think honours were in my favour this turn... I give you the RoW and Collowesta you give me some nice items in return. Morannon fallen finally (2nd attempt) but within allowable losses. (Think the next few waves through there will be more interesting for you all).

Shame about the market uh?! Not quite sure what the QA is upto but no doubt we'll see a game plan there soon. Looks like Dragon Lord has gone Emi - shame he's still in the game but can't win them all. Any time you want to get a second dragon is fine with me btw... ;)

Finally nice to get a kill in - and what a nice one it was too... :-) Plus the odd over-run and the FK is not looking so healthy either...

To sacrifice on the IK capital or not... :D :p 4th wave of troops coming soon... just need to sort out some food issues (you'll be please to know only one minor error last turn). So with 12k troops in the heart of Mordor and more on the way we wonder what plans you have to halt the hordes????

Note if you could be kind enough to give back my only Eothraim character lost so far that would be very kind of you... Not quite sure what to do with all those Eothraim characters at present - it's quite embarrassing, ditto NG & SG. Dwarves are looking a tad un-healthy at present though so if you'd be kind enough to target the Eothraim this turn @3222 that would be helpful.

Down south - would you mind failing in one kill soon - it's getting difficult to hold you off at present and desperate measures are needed.

Clint (player)

[Ian Etchells]

Clint it would be handy to see all our files i've received the DrL's (and no he's not gone all emmy) but have yet to receive the DkL's, please nudge Rob to send them :) Then i'll comment on how well or not well the turn went.

Ian

[happymadcat]

Congrats to Gildor for killing Waylander.. Roll of the dice, Waylander had a
higher rank then Gildor and should have killed him instead..
No one will get out of 3222 alive and yes I promise not to kidnap any more
Corisars characters anymore.. Just kill.. Mwahahahahaha

CL

[Clint]

Rob's nudged and sent it on - note if you're missing turns you can always ask me to send them on at night (when the rest of the staff is not working). If so though you need to put FAO Clint in the subject line (please be careful about sensitive game information then if you don't want me to know - I can switch that info "off" but I prefer not to know in the first place).

I've noticed emails from players before with subject lines that are games I'm in. In that case I just ignore it and leave it for Rob to sort out the next day.

Rob says that yahoo is playing up again so... :(

Clint (GM)

[Clint]

Guess it was a good turn for me then... ;)

Clint (player)

[mgrazebrook]

My head collection! It's gone! You just have no conception of true art.

I'd better start collecting again...

- Woof

[Clint]

Reckon you won't be able to collect any more heads matey... :D Dog Lord out is it? Nasty!!!!!:p

Let's see if we can take the Harad out this turn uh? :p

Clint

[Ian Etchells]

Yet another good turn for the Dragon Lord, though I was surprised that you beat my army on Goblin Gate, guess you'll be decorating it for me next turn with hint of Woodmen :) Gotta also say leave my camps alone, its not as though i've got plenty more where that 1 came from :)

[Clint]

Yet another good turn for the Dragon Lord, ... read I haven't killed it yet right?! ;)

I can work on that if you want but looks like I've got to mop up the Rhudaur a little more than I expected. :D

How did the Doggie die then?! Bit careless to lose two nations so quickly isn't it? Is Harad going out this turn as well? :eek:

Any time you guys want to get your second dragon into play is fine with me - it's a bit of a walk-over at present in Mordor and you've not actually seen the extra troops yet.

Also you might want to look at a market buy-out again, I hear they're good for the DS. Give it a decent chance the the Dark Lieu goes pop this turn as well... :rolleyes:

Clint (player)

[happymadcat]

Kudos for a fine game by Clint. Our team went through too many changes
to be able to keep up the pace after 3 players early on decided to self
destruct...

[VEO]

Told ya... :p

[Ian Etchells]

Give it a decent chance the the Dark Lieu goes pop this turn as well... :rolleyes:

Clint (player)

Actually I steal gold from you and you steal it right back from me and we now know who has it ;) The Dark Lieu are in a very strong position, nearly as good as the DrL :p Neither will go out anytime soon :rolleyes:

Ian

[happymadcat]

Told ya... :p

But hey the CL was played well.... :cool:

[VEO]

Yeah, we played Clint and knocked out his cloud lord turn 10 or so - got beat anyway.. :(

[Clint]

But hey the CL was played well....

Happy to comment when the game's ended... :D Like I said if you guys want feedback I'm happy to do that. Feel free to return the compliment.

Clint (player)

[Er Murazor]

But hey the CL was played well....

Happy to comment when the game's ended... :D Like I said if you guys want feedback I'm happy to do that. Feel free to return the compliment.

Clint (player)

Quiet Avenger resists in the South unbeaten by the chunkin Corsairs and gondorian forces :P Long live to Adunaphellatio

Ricard.-

[happymadcat]

Yeah, we played Clint and knocked out his cloud lord turn 10 or so - got beat anyway.. :(

Yep, I spent a few hours looking through the turns and palantirs of that
game.. Clint's play is better suited for playing FP's. :p

[Clint]

Yep, I spent a few hours looking through the turns and palantirs of that
game.. Clint's play is better suited for playing FP's.

Happy to play any side. I usually tailor my style to the format of game I'm playing (shocking as that may sound!) DS 1650 is probably my strongest game I think, but I think it's easiest to win with FP in 1650. 2950 in our grudge team we've usually won by turn 8 as either side though so maybe from that perspective my game is stronger in 2950 (I usually do lots of the co-ordination). 1000 is probably my weakest game.

QA - undefeated - correct - for the time being. Still not sure what your armies are doing attacking NG though [what Gondorion forces - a quick snipe in with SG cavalry - not quite sure you understood its purpose!]... ;)

Looks to me like you guys have made a decision - is that the case?

Clint (player)

[VEO]

Yep, I spent a few hours looking through the turns and palantirs of that
game.. Clint's play is better suited for playing FP's. :p

2 Interesting claims...

1) Clint - did you let Guy look through your files?

2) While his agressive military play is traditionally more FP, now weren't we surprised when the large DS cav forces simply kept coming in numbers that were, well, surprising... One might consider it a perfect DS style, all things considered. Take the economy, pound out 20-60% more forces than the FP are *expecting* and hammer at them with agents - let the starting FP keep all the mage toys, mages, bah, conjure mounts and ride~! (actually, I have no idea what he was doing with his DS mages that game....)

Brad Brunet(ti)

[happymadcat]

No Brad, I looked through YOUR team files not Clint's...

[Er Murazor]

QA - undefeated - correct - for the time being. Still not sure what your armies are doing attacking NG though [what Gondorion forces - a quick snipe in with SG cavalry - not quite sure you understood its purpose!]... ;)

Looks to me like you guys have made a decision - is that the case?

Clint (player)[/QUOTE]

I'll explain to you if you are intereted in :) just email me.

[VEO]

Okay good, so I can still trust the company then...Phew!

[Clint]

You can never trust The Company... :D Well maybe you can trust us... ;)

Thanks for the concession guys. Good game overall - some difficult and intricate decisions to make on my part forced in part by your good play. Like I said happy to chat about the game.

I'm desperate to know does the Harad go pop this turn?! :cool:

Clint (player)

[happymadcat]

It would have been close Clint.. The original Harad player choose to pursue
an emissary strategy (would you believe it?) and left a very hard nation to
do anything with when I picked it up 3 turns ago.. Problem was compounded
by Harad having to bail out QA every turn with every spare cent for the
last few turns..

If Harad hadnt gone kaput next turn it wouldnt have taken more then a
couple of more turns.. Yes, we knew the Corsiars armies were cav unless
they had dropped in magic carpets are us..

I had originally planned to agent siege 4 of your nations capitals by turn
6 but Clint's superb military play taking advantage of poor Dog and DkLts
tactics (before Ian took the nation over) so putting all my CL agents into a
desperate rear guard action.. Clint must have been shocked when he
was allowed to take 3120 unappossed and control the gate to Morannon
for the rest of the game.. The biggest CL mistake was trying to
kidnap a mis named character, not much more a CL player could have
done with the lack of DS armies out there.

[Er Murazor]

Well

I believe that as QA nothing more could be done, since Harad decided to go for emissairs, I found myself recruiting in more places and troops than Harad. I managed even to do some damage and burn 2 corsairs MT. My army in Gondor was to avoid your armies running through my camping area. My economy was not really good, since I had to support so many troops. I managed now to have 6 emissairs between 55-60 level. I even survived one tax rising. I got some gold from Harad this turn :) but not every turn .... :O only WK fall was acceptable other bankrupts were self provided. Harad never send his intentions and sometimes I even had to imagine myself the map and the info and orders. When Guy took over the nation it was too late. I'm very proud to do what I have done and kill so many CO characters. Nice play with Thergor challenge, a pitty Baranor did not show up!

Ricard
QA

[Clint]

Here's the map

[happymadcat]

Yep, we nearly had you Clint!!! Lol

[Er Murazor]

Yep, we nearly had you Clint!!! Lol

We?? you mean Quiet Avenger !! Adunaphellatio was the only one wearing throusers in the DS team!! and She is a woman .... but ... what a woman. We might forward Clint one of those funny emails from Adunaphel ....

[happymadcat]

Er Ricard... You are forgetting your economy was propped up by other
members of the team when the QA should have been a provider...
Now didnt you nearly go bankrupt a few times?? :p When there was no
reason for it? Haha

So you're saying the DrL and CL were'nt played well?? Expected better
from you Ricard...

No one on the team played perfectly.

[Clint]

No one on the team played perfectly.

No one ever does... ;) Still waiting for my perfect game... :(

Think you guys have the core of a good team. Like I said if you want feedback I'm happy to provide.

Clint (player)

[VEO]

Seems they'd rather play the old "I did better than you!" ... "No you didn't, I played better than you!"... "No, me!"...game. Fun to watch, kind of... ;)

[happymadcat]

Seems they'd rather play the old "I did better than you!" ... "No you didn't, I played better than you!"... "No, me!"...game. Fun to watch, kind of... ;)

Read the comments properly before making false assumptions

[VEO]

Ha!

(need more characters to post a reply....so...HA!)

[happymadcat]

My team vote goes for Ian for an extremely well played Dragon game
and as for best enemy player; chocies choices.. Lol

[Er Murazor]

I believe someone has absolutelly and definitevelly a serious lack of sense of humour. Adunaphellatio was an extremelly fun QA character in game 12 within Team correspondence. I didn't expect any competence in who played better or who was the perfect player. I don't mind that, it's your competition and your problem, I was just making fun of all things and I wanted to forward Clint one of the funny emails Adunaphellatio send to Urzahil, which he told me was a very fun email. Of course you didn't catch any meaning at all.

[VEO]

Adun's phunny, I'll grant you that. :p

[Ian Etchells]

I don't really care who played well or who didn't, it was a team game that I must admit as a team we didn't play to our full potential. The only thing to come out of this is that I enjoyed the game and enjoyed the good natured banter on and off the boards....Pinky/Pants/Aduna....

Got to also say well played Clint ;)

[fragilesi]

Lol, I'm still getting the blame am I Guy? Should have known I guess. In fairness it was only after turns ran that you seemed to disagree with what I was doing . . .

[happymadcat]

Lol, I'm still getting the blame am I Guy? Should have known I guess. In fairness it was only after turns ran that you seemed to disagree with what I was doing . . .

Leaving 3120 and the road totally undefended was something the team
desperately tried to rebound from to no avail.. Are you joking I disagreed
only after the turns ran.. Going senile Simon? Don't remember the 30+
email thread about the importance of blocking the North Gate BEFORE
the turn ran???? :confused: ROFL

[fragilesi]

Don't you remember the fact that I couldn't defend it and follow the plan that I was asked to follow at the time because the previous turns I had been using the additional commanders for things like ferrying artifacts around?

No point telling a guy left with one commander to be in two places at once and again to be fair I did counsel massing our forces for that very purpose rather than running all over the place from the start.

Either way, we were beaten by a better "team" :)

[happymadcat]

True and that was what the email thread was all about.. Dog wanted to
attack and due to lack of commanders there was no defence.. I aguered
long and hard that attack with no defence was suicide against Clint so
therefore defence was paramount.. It was Dog's plan you followed Simon,
no one else's; which I opposed very loudly....

Unforunetaly I was proved right. Wish I wasn't but when you give an
inch to a player of Clint's calibre its going to happen.. But it was a great
experience and I hope we all learned from the game. :D

[fragilesi]

Guy, yes precisely about the one commander. However, the "mistake" was not the Dog's plan as such - which I followed as it had the majority support of those expressing an opinion at the time but the fact that I left a single commander at 3120 for that crucial turn. One more turn and the backup forces were there.

Once the single commander was left there there wasn't another move. You asked for blocking which is what that single commander effectively did by moving up the road anyway and no-one had a backup army to support additional blocking bcause of the very offensive strategy.

I think regardless of the nitty gritty the main point is that the team was divided over tactics at the start. If you remember I didn't believe in the Dog plan but followed it with the majority at the time even though it was extremely ambitious. That's where we as a team went wrong. In short I dispute your summation that the game was lost "mainly" due to my bad tactics or that 3120 was quite so significant when we weren't all pulling in the same direction which was the root cause.

One of the things you did get right was pointing out our lack of recruitment and looking at the map above little changed. I think I was a pretty rare DS in that I was recruiting at both my major towns . . .

[happymadcat]

Simon, if I you want I'll open up the Yahoo group so you can refresh your
memory.. The Dog plan was'nt widely supported so hence I call it the Dog
plan; a few players expressed doubts but there wasnt much support besides
Dog's conviction.

There wasnt much recruitment as Clint had squeezed us financially, remember
me prattling on about the importance of stealing from the right nations,
protecting PC's etc...

[fragilesi]

It wasn't widely supported but it carried the majority who expressed an opinion from the start. I was one of the very few to question it originally but followed it because that was the plan.

And we didn't all follow it fully so like I said, our main problem was that we never had one plan that we stuck too. Dog wanted you to concentrate your agents, you saw the need to split them and so it went on. I was going to send Gothmog up to Morannon and you asked for him to go West so I did.

But surely you agree that never as a team did we have a clear majority decision on what the overall plan was. When you are a team against a single player like Clint that isn't going to work in any case.

[happymadcat]

I don't think anyone else spoke against the attack plan but yes a few expressed
doubts over it. But not enough oppoisiton to stop the plan due to Dog's
insistence.

I agree over the 2 plans in the team; and I spoke of this earlier in this thread;
attempting to banrupt EO was plain wrong and wasted our agents stealing
little.. Harad's emissary strategy (again supported by Dog) was plain
stupid and was opposed by not only me.. The problem simply was a
couiple of players presumed they knew better and ended up with egg on
their face.. I understand you were caught in the middle but then again
some level of hindsight should have been employed.

You're totally right; against a tight grudge team or 1 player a united team
is needed and thus I will be very wary of what players to have in the team
before attempting another vs 1 grudge game.

[fragilesi]

then again some level of hindsight should have been employed.


I think that's being employed right now :rolleyes:

[happymadcat]

I think that's being employed right now :rolleyes:

For some of the team yes... ;)