Grudge

[vandal]

So who is free out there I wonder

Fair game required.

Vandal

[Halex13]

Team Simpson

[vandal]

But your playing Gixxer are you not?

Vandal

[Gixxer]

Hi there John,
looks like Mr. Redmont is ready to rumble.

Play him !

Have Fun !

Gixxx

[vandal]

Well I wont interfere in your game if you want to get it on together I will leave it up to you two how you play it.

But I am ready to go now and play any sides.

Vandal

[vandal]

Whats wrong with being polite?

Vandal

[Brad Jenison]

Now I am confused. Frank I thought the whole reason game 15 collapsed was that you were withdrawing from all your games due to some pressing matter in your personal life. Now you are wanting to find new opposition? I don't know seems kind of erratic to me. Game 15 time and effort spent to set up then wasted by a premature end.

Before I would want to agree to a grudge game with your team I think I would want some guarantees from the players on your team that they would play at least 10 turns regardless of your participation or lack of. I didn't understand why your drop in game 15 would result in the end of a game. I understand that sometimes issues come up where a player has to leave a game. What I did not understand was why the other 11 could not continue without you; either finding a replacement or doubling up and someone taking over your nation. It was this collapse that would make me wary of signing on to play your team.

Regards
Brad Jenison

[vandal]

Read Clint recent notice, thats all I can say.

Vandal

[Brad Jenison]

Frank,

If you're talking about Clint's post today about posting on the forum that doesn't apply here.

What I meant in my posting is that a grudge game was set up that only ran one turn and then folded for whatever reasons. All I could see was that you were withdrawing from at least that game, and that the game ended. It is not simply about you, the loss of our team captain would be a serious loss on our team to be sure, but the team would not collapse because of it. Had we been in Game 15 and we lost our captain we would simply have made adjustments and carried on. For whatever reasons your team was unable to do that. What I am saying is that Grudge Games are between teams; on our team at least a lot of thought and effort goes into planning even before the zero turn arrives. I would hate to spend all that time and effort only to find out after the first turn was run that our opposition was folding its tents because one of their players could not continue.

That is why I would want some kind of guarantee that if your team was to match up with my team that it would play at least 10 turns, unless you could defeat us in a shorter time. If that could not be secured then I would opt to find more reliable opposition. Nothing personnal, I just don't want to gear up for a contest to find it cancelled.

Brad

[vandal]

In our games before this we lost several players without it effecting the team and the single loss of any player will not effect if the game finishes or carries on.

I am sure we can come to an agreement about if either side drops before turn 10 the other side pays the turn costs of the other side.

Vandal

[VEO]

Brad, there are lots of real teams to take on, have no fear.

[vandal]

Indeed that sounds very serious it would concern me to.

Vandal

[Nightsbane]

Umm for the record Mr Jenison, Im on Vandal's team, and while Frank planned to bowed out..I was attempting to work with Gixx, (as Im sure he will atest), to iron out the details to continue on.
Mike

[DaveHolt]

Guys, Frank has clearly said he won't talk about this. Thus, you can throw tomatoes if you want, but that's sort of like hitting a pacifist in the face. Everyone loses.

Game 15 is spilt milk. Lots of reasons involving both teams.
Spilt milk is spilt. Let's move on.

To that end, in any game, I think it's a great idea to really crisply define the playing conditions and end-of-game conditions. THus, pre-defining some things to add certainty about a new grudge seems a good idea.

And finally, I was on Frank's Game 15 team. Due to my personal reasons, I won't be on the next one. I think Frank is a great player and teammate.
For that matter, I've also enjoyed him as an opponent (where his team actually beat mine).

Dave

[Brad Jenison]

Nightsbane, I have had my private conversation with Frank. I don't need the reason that he left game 15; it is not my business. As I said in my post my concern would be that any game I committed to would not end abruptly as game 15 did. I have not been a party to the communications that caused that game to end, however I find it hard to understand why Gixxer's team would have said to hell with this; if your team had simply said Vandal is withdrawing we will continue however and replace him with a new player or one of our current team members will take over his nation. My understanding is that Gixxer's team has players playing multiple positions so that should not have been an objection.

I didn't use the word antics in either of my posts. I did not criticize Frank, for his reasons to withdraw as I really don't know or need to know them. I am simply pointing out that I would not want to match up and begin planning a game strategy only to find out that there was any possibility of the game being over after turn 1, for whatever reasons.

Veo, I am pretty sure we will have opposition in short order.

Dave, no need to defend Frank, I am not criticizing him. Only expressing my reluctance to be involved in another truncated game that ends before it really gets started.

Regards to all.

Brad

[vandal]

Well now we haver got all this off the chest anyone want to play in a gentle game?

Perhaps Brad you should play Gixxers team I think they have first dips on this if they are ready.

Vandal

[Clint]

Look guys I strongly suggest you do not, under any circumstances play each other. That should be strongly emphasised, that's ANY.

No doubt there is other opposition out there (or will be soon). If you are looking for a game get in touch.

Clint

[vandal]

Well ignoring all the game 15 stuff who the hell can play who now I wonder.

Vandal

[VEO]

Clint recommended... But it's a personal choice - you can advise Clint who you do not want to play with, either on your own team or even the opposition, such that you don't ever have to be in any games with that person at all. Just another excellent service option provided by Middle Earth Games.

[vandal]

This is my litte forum about a simple game of grudge so go forth and creat your own about those wonderful services

Vandal

[VEO]

This is a public forum for all gamers. Such possessive agression is to be admired in the face of military invasion, but not so much 'friendly banter', yes?

[vandal]

What are you waffling on about?

I want to talk games not idle banter start a forum note about it and we can go banter all you like.

Indded if you want to spent many an idle hour bantering with me why not.

Just set it up and invite its not like I have anythigNG else in ym life that I might want to do.

Vandal

[Drukarzun]

Yeah and sell tickets; you v-boys would make a mint.

[darrell]

When vandal says "forum" he means "thread".

Individual posts (such as mine here) come together to form a thread (like this one titled "Grudge"). Many threads are contained within a forum (this one is in the Middle Earth Play-by-Mail forum).

But hey it's all just technobabble.

[VEO]

Yeah and sell tickets; you v-boys would make a mint.

And a tip of the hat to you sir.

[vandal]

Well as this thread has lost its meaning and my cold is no better I will leave you all to play.

Vandal

[Gixxer]

Yeah and sell tickets; you v-boys would make a mint.

Hi Drew,
I've seen your postings concerning some other games !

Let's say at the moment I'm really sorry that we haven't played each other.

I've done a damned mistake, but be sure this won't happen again !

Have Fun !

Gixxx

[Gixxer]

Nightsbane, I have had my private conversation with Frank. I don't need the reason that he left game 15; it is not my business. As I said in my post my concern would be that any game I committed to would not end abruptly as game 15 did. I have not been a party to the communications that caused that game to end, however I find it hard to understand why Gixxer's team would have said to hell with this; if your team had simply said Vandal is withdrawing we will continue however and replace him with a new player or one of our current team members will take over his nation. My understanding is that Gixxer's team has players playing multiple positions so that should not have been an objection.

I didn't use the word antics in either of my posts. I did not criticize Frank, for his reasons to withdraw as I really don't know or need to know them. I am simply pointing out that I would not want to match up and begin planning a game strategy only to find out that there was any possibility of the game being over after turn 1, for whatever reasons.

Veo, I am pretty sure we will have opposition in short order.

Dave, no need to defend Frank, I am not criticizing him. Only expressing my reluctance to be involved in another truncated game that ends before it really gets started.

Regards to all.

Brad


Brad,
you're still/again a member of John's team ?

Another Darrell, Bettina !

At the moment the "Circle" is a bit confused, but there's something out there.

You can't see, it's still invisible.

Some cold hands may lay upon your throat, this might be the first sign to show you that it is there.

Interested ?

Have Fun !

Gixxx

[VEO]

Veo, I am pretty sure we will have opposition in short order.

Brad is scared of Brad. Nyahh Nyahh! (oops...that wasn't very friendly, maybe I'll report myself..?)

[VEO]

NO! I know, I'll REPLY to myself! I'm offended, but did it anyway! Okay, offensive to me...I need a shower...whatever...

[Drukarzun]

Hi Drew,
I've seen your postings concerning some other games !

Let's say at the moment I'm really sorry that we haven't played each other.

I've done a damned mistake, but be sure this won't happen again !

Have Fun !

Gixxx

No mistake, it was the only logical outcome since my team had overlapping membership with both yours and the other team, remember? I'm sure our paths will cross in the future (as long we get Bernd!!).
Drew

[VEO]

Pah! You can have Bernd. Your All-Neutral allegiance will not be forgotten.. I'll take Gixx...even if I don't know what he's saying 92.3% of the time...

[Drukarzun]

Pah! You can have Bernd. Your All-Neutral allegiance will not be forgotten.. I'll take Gixx...even if I don't know what he's saying 92.3% of the time...

Well me either; I do just about as well when he types in German. <g>

[Gixxer]

NO! I know, I'll REPLY to myself! I'm offended, but did it anyway! Okay, offensive to me...I need a shower...whatever...

Too many Brad's ?

Hmm, maybe !

Have Fun !

Gixxx

[Gixxer]

Pah! You can have Bernd. Your All-Neutral allegiance will not be forgotten.. I'll take Gixx...even if I don't know what he's saying 92.3% of the time...

That's great to know,
subjects that aren't able to know what happens arround are always the best subjects, simply for the one reason that they're not aware of their existence
( but I guess you are Brad B, 93,5 % ?).
Further on the job for the "dirty work" was given away now !

Well, Bernd is a really good player and he's living at Berlin.
Several reasons to make a sacrifice to play with him (94,3 )!

Drew, are you ready to play ?

Have Fun !

Gixxx

[Mormegil]

Well I am flattered that eyerybody wants to play with me (except Brad, but I'll take that as a good sign, too :D ).

Fact is:
I am on Drew's team (which does not have a name, though we had all kinds of very sophisticated proposals, I liked "Crew de Drew" best :D )
AND
I am on the Circle of Wraith. So those teams can't play each other unless you want to force me to make a decision I don't want to make.

I'm sure there will be another grudge team to play for the circle, and I guess we are not in a hurry.

[Drukarzun]

Well, Bernd is a really good player and he's living at Berlin.
Several reasons to make a sacrifice to play with him (94,3 )!

Drew, are you ready to play ?

Have Fun !

Gixxx

No we are not ready to start any new games, as our current one is only 4 turns old, and the Danes have not conceded yet (although they should <g>). There are some on this forum who would call that backing down from a challenge, but alas be that as it may.

Bernd living in Berlin is certainly no help to me! Anyone further than Tulsa is all the same in that regard. <g>

Drew

[Another Darrel]

Brad,
you're still/again a member of John's team ?

Another Darrell, Bettina !

At the moment the "Circle" is a bit confused, but there's something out there.

You can't see, it's still invisible.

Some cold hands may lay upon your throat, this might be the first sign to show you that it is there.

Interested ?

Have Fun !

Gixxx

If you are saying you are ready to play Team Simpson then you just made my day. :-) Otherwise, I suspect you are still hung over from St. Patricks day. ;-)

Seriously, give John S a ring....we are ready to play.

[Halex13]

So does Team Simpson get a game????????

[vandal]

I GAVE UP TRYING TO WORK ANY OF THAT MYSELF SOME TIME AGO

Vandal

[Clint]

Hya guys if you want a Grudge game get in touch with me so I know who the Team captain is, what games you want etc. I'm here to help out and can do so... ;)

Clint

[vandal]

But I tried that without success and I know they say if at first, but stuff that for a game of soldiers.

Vandal

[Gixxer]

So does Team Simpson get a game????????

Yes !

Have Fun !

Gixxx

[Another Darrel]

Great news! Let's get this party started! :-)

[vandal]

Well lets see who wins this one then.

Vandal

[VEO]

Well, if They win, then They will lose. Unless the Winners don't win, then they're the Losers, excepting if they ARE the Winners then they HAVE to win. Please keep us all informed.

[Gixxer]

Someone has posted something written with invisible ink.

Sorry, I'm not able to read it !

Have Fun !

Gixxx

[Gixxer]

Well, if They win, then They will lose. Unless the Winners don't win, then they're the Losers, excepting if they ARE the Winners then they HAVE to win. Please keep us all informed.

Aha,
more than 1500 years we haven't had an oracle at Delfi, but now we have someone to do this job !

Have Fun !

Gixxx