2950 Game 28

[Spectre]

Now that we have the game number straightened out how about getting the rest of the nation slots filled. Last time I checked there were 6 nations left, this should be a good one!

Erik
Future Ally and Opponent of game 28.

[Clint]

5 to fill

Clint

[Spectre]

Four nations left! C'mon lets fill them up!! This game should contain tons of action and intrigue.

Erik

[Spectre]

Three nations left! This one is going to start soon, I can feel it!! Can't wait to trounce the enemy.:bash:

Erik

[marinersk]

I can't believe I'm joining another open game. I thought I was done with that.

Maybe I need to attend OGA meetings or something.

"Hi, my name is Steve and I'm an Open-Game-aholic."

- Steve M.

[marinersk]

Three nations left! This one is going to start soon, I can feel it!! Can't wait to trounce the enemy.:bash:

Erik

Where do you come by this information? The front sheet post still says 6.

- Steve M.

[Spectre]

Steve,

According to my latest turn results there are 3 nations available. A friend just signed up yesterday so their should be 2 nations left now.

Erik

[marinersk]

My recent turns also show 3 so I guess the front sheet entry on the forums is a bit behind...which makes sense given that it's a manual process, done by a third party, etc., etc.

Two to go? Yippee!

:: breathe :: :: breathe :: :: breathe ::

Don't forget to breathe. Very important.

Man, I feel like a kid at Christmas. What gives?

[Spectre]

Yeah I do get a little excited when It comes to starting new games. I guess I am having gaming withdrawals.

Erik

[STEVENB]

Yeah! Signed up for game on Weds. What, down to two more?

Steve:rolleyes:

[marinersk]

According to inside intel (Spectre), there may be but one slot left.

For that matter, I haven't checked my E-Mail today yet.

- Steve M.

[marinersk]

Nope. Not yet. Come on! Come on! Come OnOnOnononononononon!

- Steve M.

[STEVENB]

Down to one according to the sheet recieved today!!

Steve

[marinersk]

WooHoooooooooooo! Come ON! Surely there's SOMEBODY out there who's itching to suffer another 2950, no?

- Steve M.

[Faramir]

I'm Jonesin' for this game. Please somebody sing up. PLEASE! :D

[Spectre]

Silvan Elves checking in. Noldo Dave, John Wall you out there? Waiting for my pointy eared brethren to check in!

Spectre

[marinersk]

Rhun Easterlings checking in.

Correspondence channels have been tested. Interested parties may reach me at:

re28@bhmk.com

Thanks!

- Steve M.

[HolyAvenger]

Duck run for cover I'm the Duns... Looking forward to talking to everyone. Misonor@yahoo.com

[HolyAvenger]

are the DS looking for clouds to come over before they send thier diplos out?

[Bryon]

I send warm greetings to my fellow Dark Servants, to the Neutrals, and to the Free Peoples. The court of Adunaphel welcomes ambassadors from all lands, enemy, allied, or neutral. Please send your envoys to kipp0035 at umn dot edu. (Note that the 0's are zeros.)

Respectfully,

Adunaphel
7th of the Nazgul

[RoadRailer]

WooHoooooooooooo! Come ON! Surely there's SOMEBODY out there who's itching to suffer another 2950, no?

- Steve M.

That somebody was me. My wife is gonna :bash: me. This will be my first suffering of 2950 but I get to dish out a little as well. CL checking in...:D


newts are my friends, Freeps are my dyiing friends:D

Dan
dwc122062@yahoo.com

[STEVENB]

So, it begins... Southern Gondor here. Would like to make contact with all the neutrals in this game.

Best of luck to all.

CPA2REFER@AOL.COM

Steve
SG

[marinersk]

This will be my first suffering of 2950 but I get to dish out a little as well. CL checking in...:D

Just remember that 2950 is more a Character game and you'll be fine. I realize it may be hard to play the Cloud Lord as if it were a Character Nation, but...

:: ducking ::

- Steve M.

[HolyAvenger]

Just remember that 2950 is more a Character game and you'll be fine. I realize it may be hard to play the Cloud Lord as if it were a Character Nation, but...

:: ducking ::

- Steve M.

I think I have more character than my nation has characters.. So I guess I will ok in this game..

[Prindy]

Blind Sorcerer Checking in.

I've been a little busy, sorry for the lack of communications.

You can contact me at stevep7806@sbcglobal.net

Steve

[Prindy]

It's been a long time since I played a non-grudge game. My diplomatic skills are a little rusty!

[marinersk]

It's been a long time since I played a non-grudge game. My diplomatic skills are a little rusty!

'Tis no trouble at all, sir. Just remember not to whip my envoys the way you do your own folk and things are likely to go swimmingly.

- Steve M.
Rhun Easterlings

[Prindy]

But they liked to be whipped! They are always saying "Don't Stop!"

[jswall007]

Galadriel of the Golden Woods sends her regards,

The start of another 2950 game, how will this one end I wonder?:rolleyes:

Will the Free be victorious?:D

Or can the Dark turn the tides for Sauron?:mad:

Only time will tell and am sure the Neutrals will as always play a major factor in the outcome.:fork:

Enjoy your nation and above all else, have fun!:p

John

[marinersk]

The start of another 2950 game, how will this one end I wonder?
Will the Free be victorious?
Or can the Dark turn the tides for Sauron?


You know, nobody ever acknowledges the possibility of the 5 Neutrals, through superior teamwork, diplomacy and downright gumption, successfully wiping out all 20 pre-aligned nations and ending this whole bickering-for-control thing once and for all...

- Steve M.
Rhun Easterlings

[marinersk]

Oops. Did I say that out loud?

- Steve M.
Rhun Easterlings

[Faramir]

I saw it. I won't tell anyone....but I did see it. :rolleyes:

[Prindy]

You know, nobody ever acknowledges the possibility of the 5 Neutrals, through superior teamwork, diplomacy and downright gumption, successfully wiping out all 20 pre-aligned nations and ending this whole bickering-for-control thing once and for all...

- Steve M.
Rhun Easterlings

but then it would be a 5 nation fight to the finish. 5 nations of Men, we know they don't share very well!

[marinersk]

but then it would be a 5 nation fight to the finish. 5 nations of Men, we know they don't share very well!

Uhm...does the White Wizard really count as a Nation of Men, in Tolkein's view?

- Steve M.
Rhun Easterlings

[marinersk]

I never thought about the one disadvantage to the Neutrals; almost no authoritative information about what's going on in other parts of the world.

It's kind of exciting, in a way. At risk of sounding a bit like Ed Mills (whcih I do anyway so nothing to be done about it really), this makes me wish for the days when the two teams weren't so in-touch due to the high availability of the Internet.

- Steve M.
Rhun Easterlings

[Sir Malcolm]

As the new leader of the Dunlendings*, I wish to welcome ambassadors from all nations, regardless of of race, creed, or ethical orientation. PM me if you wish to establish contact.

Also, in 4 turns, the Dunlending Temporary Agent Agency will be opening for business. If your nation is low on sneaky backstabbers, consider hiring the honorable sneaky backstabbers of the Dunlendings to do your dirty work. Reasonable rates. Discounts for non-profit organizations.






*The previous player dropped out after a turn.

[marinersk]

PM me if you wish to establish contact.

What does it mean to "PM" someone?

- Steve M.
Rhun Easterlings

[Prindy]

Private mail or pre-menstral take your choice!

[Sir Malcolm]

Private mail or pre-menstral take your choice!


This coming from the guy whose nation is abreviated "BS"

[Prindy]

I got a ton of it!!

[Malaii]

Dîn Ohtar checking in or checking out am i really here or not? Well if i am keep the ale cold and women hot cause i might be heading to your town soon.

[marinersk]

Dîn Ohtar checking in or checking out am i really here or not? Well if i am keep the ale cold and women hot cause i might be heading to your town soon.

Hmm....talk about getting your head smashed by a piece of lemon wrapped around a gold brick...it sounds social but is it really a threat?

:-)

- Steve M.
Rhun Easterlings

[marinersk]

Hello....?

[marinersk]

It's gone all...quiet...and...squishy...in here.

Orders must be due today.

- Steve M.
Rhun Easterlings

[STEVENB]

Yes, orders due today. This should be an interesting turn. Good luck my fellow FP.

Steve
SG

[marinersk]

So....how'd it go.....?

[marinersk]

That well, eh?

[STEVENB]

Actually, I think that the turn went well. Big party at 3024. IK, FK, DkLts, NG & SG all there. 2809 revealed and threatened away all in one turn. Lots of pressure on 2715.

How did it go for you?

Steve
SG

[benmin18]

Time to make my presence known. I am in this game playing the White Wizard. I have received numerous messages from both sides, but nothing for a while. Has anyone received their turns for today, 6/29/2007?

- Ben

[Spectre]

Greetings Saruman!

Got my turn at 8:51 this morning.

Do you have an email address where you can be reached?

Silvan Elves

[benmin18]

All diplomacy will be carried out in public via this message board.

- Ben

[marinersk]

All diplomacy will be carried out in public via this message board.

- Ben

Okay, but what about the Neutrals getting together for some Market Manipulation independently of the narrow-minded pre-aligned Nations? Do we plan those in the open, too?

- Steve M.
Rhun Easterlings

[marinersk]

Oh, by the way -- Hi, Ben. Good to see you again. Haven't faced off with you since the Grudge Game against Team Lush where, as far as I can tell, we both tried to throw the game on a number of occassions... :: sigh ::

How've you been?

[Ulysses212]

Well, well...

If it isn't the long lost Ben Min... How've you been, buddy? I still owe you beers from the Indians/Red Sox games a ways back. Want to do a double or nothing?

Jason Vafiades, Riders

[benmin18]

All is well. I've been away from the game a bit, obviously, however I am slowly easing my way back into the swing of things.

- Ben

[benmin18]

Okay, but what about the Neutrals getting together for some Market Manipulation independently of the narrow-minded pre-aligned Nations? Do we plan those in the open, too?

- Steve M.
Rhun Easterlings

I don't work with other neutrals, sorry.

- Ben
White Wizard

[STEVENB]

Ben:

Nice to hear from you. We were wondering if your position was being played or dropped. Now that we know, I would like to open the lines of communication with the FP of this game. What are your plans for this game?

Steve
SG

[benmin18]

Ben:

Nice to hear from you. We were wondering if your position was being played or dropped. Now that we know, I would like to open the lines of communication with the FP of this game. What are your plans for this game?

Steve
SG

I've been playing the entire time. My plan is to make both sides worry.

- Ben
White Wizard

[Ulysses212]

An admirable cause. Hope you get all you need. I'll be next door if you want anything. I know you won't be shy.

Glad to see you back in the fold. Let me know when you're considering team play again.

J

[benmin18]

Turns run tomorrow, and I think I might actually have put in all my orders correctly. Let's find out. I hope both sides are sufficiently worried.

- Ben
White Wizard

[RoadRailer]

[QUOTE=benmin18;33639] I hope both sides are sufficiently worried.


I'm not worried. None of us are from Michigan. ;) I think the Riders have descended from there tho.:D

here's to the roll of the "buckeye" this turn. Welcome fellow gamer!!

Ji & friends

[STEVENB]

Strange how this rumor was floating around...

Rumor of attempted assassination of Saruman by Lugdush!

Should I be afraid now??

Steve
SG

Not a Michigan fan either, but go Penn State!!

[benmin18]

Strange how this rumor was floating around...

Rumor of attempted assassination of Saruman by Lugdush!

Should I be afraid now??

Steve
SG

Not a Michigan fan either, but go Penn State!!

Afraid. Laughing. Take your pick.

Things are kind of hard when you're playing by memory.

- Ben
White Wizard

[benmin18]

The Tower of Orthanc requests information from the Free Peoples and Dark Servants regarding the war abroad.

- Grima Wormtongue
Emissary of Saruman the White

[Faramir]

Hello Tower of Orthanc,

Am I to assume from previous posts that you still prefer to have everything posted here on this board, rather than sent directly to you? You do realize, of course, that will tend to limit the type and depth of information you may receive?

We would be happy to send a compilation of Free News Network Neutral Newsletters to you, to bring you up to speed. However, as I'm sure you can guess, we are not really interested in sharing with the DS. They lack a certain appreciation for the information in question. May we send something to you directly?

The Woodmen :D

[benmin18]

Yes, all communication is via this board. Do not send any secret messages. The White Wizard only asks for news, not future plans. That is all.

- Herald of Angrenost


Hello Tower of Orthanc,

Am I to assume from previous posts that you still prefer to have everything posted here on this board, rather than sent directly to you? You do realize, of course, that will tend to limit the type and depth of information you may receive?

We would be happy to send a compilation of Free News Network Neutral Newsletters to you, to bring you up to speed. However, as I'm sure you can guess, we are not really interested in sharing with the DS. They lack a certain appreciation for the information in question. May we send something to you directly?

The Woodmen :D

[RoadRailer]

[QUOTE=Faramir;33698]Hello Tower of Orthanc,

I'm sure you can guess, we are not really interested in sharing with the DS. They lack a certain appreciation for the information in question. May we send something to you directly?

The Woodmen

Quite the contrary Sir LogHead;)

We appreciate very much any info you would like to share w/the Tower, maybe moreso:D On our side, we have rebuffed all strikes originating from Oz westard and there have been many much to the credit of our foes. In the north we have taken some minor hits and have doled out some destruction of our own within Mirkwood and surrounding area. Each side has slapped the other w/some character losses and the Freeps have gained a couple of toys that we would like back. We'll only ask once before we:bash: u:D Oh ya, the bridges are down so ship builders are now in high demand. stay tuned......


Buckeye Ji:hug:

[benmin18]

The Tower of Orthanc is not impressed with vagaries and insinuations. Saruman the White has asked for news regarding the current conflict, not future plans. He is quite capable of assisting either side with equal effectiveness.

- Grima Wormtongue
Herald of Angrenost



Quite the contrary Sir LogHead;)

We appreciate very much any info you would like to share w/the Tower, maybe moreso:D On our side, we have rebuffed all strikes originating from Oz westard and there have been many much to the credit of our foes. In the north we have taken some minor hits and have doled out some destruction of our own within Mirkwood and surrounding area. Each side has slapped the other w/some character losses and the Freeps have gained a couple of toys that we would like back. We'll only ask once before we:bash: u:D Oh ya, the bridges are down so ship builders are now in high demand. stay tuned......


Buckeye Ji:hug:

[RoadRailer]

The Tower of Orthanc is not impressed with vagaries and insinuations. Saruman the White has asked for news regarding the current conflict, not future plans. He is quite capable of assisting either side with equal effectiveness.



Fair enough. Perhaps I misinterpreted your footnote reference to the state of Michigan as insinuation. My missives may be laced w/such, but purely for enjoyment. The update I gave is an accurate assessment of the war to date and contains no future plans. I hope others will present you w/an assessment of current affairs as well.

Enjoy,
Ji

[benmin18]

Quite the contrary Sir LogHead;)

We appreciate very much any info you would like to share w/the Tower, maybe moreso:D On our side, we have rebuffed all strikes originating from Oz westard and there have been many much to the credit of our foes. In the north we have taken some minor hits and have doled out some destruction of our own within Mirkwood and surrounding area. Each side has slapped the other w/some character losses and the Freeps have gained a couple of toys that we would like back. We'll only ask once before we:bash: u:D Oh ya, the bridges are down so ship builders are now in high demand. stay tuned......


Buckeye Ji:hug:

There needs to be something more specific than, "we have rebuffed all strikes originating from OZ westard," and "In the north we have taken some minor hits and have doled out some destruction of our own within Mirkwood and surrounding area. Each side has slapped the other w/ some character losses and the Freeps have gained a couple of toys that we would like back." One might as well write: The Free Peoples and Dark Servants are fighting in Mirkwood and Osgiliath. Heroes from both sides have fallen.

Saruman the White requests knowledge. As his servant I must oblige.

- Grima Wormtongue
Emissary of Angrenost

Free People/Dark Servants,

As I stated before, all diplomacy with my will be carried out in public via this board. The actions of other neutrals have no bearing on which side I declare for - and I will declare openly. Now, when I asked for news I meant what I asked for: news. Telling me that characters have died and there's fighting going on in Osgiliath and Mirkwood is pointless because, well, there's always fighting going on in Osgiliath and Mirkwood as well as various other parts of the map. I am not asking either team to divulge their strategy for the game but revelant news will make a BIG difference in which way I declare.

- Ben
White Wizard

[Faramir]

[QUOTE=benmin18;33725] "Now, when I asked for news I meant what I asked for: news. Telling me that characters have died and there's fighting going on in Osgiliath and Mirkwood is pointless because, well, there's always fighting going on in Osgiliath and Mirkwood as well as various other parts of the map. "

Respectfully, Grima,

We Woodmen are not exactly sure what you mean by "relevant news", if not what was offered by another. The Dark Side deputy indeed gave you 'news' after a fashion. It was of course winnowed and sifted so that others do not intercept it and make uses of it contrarywise to the designs of the messenger. He also was ensuring the needs of his bretheren were not put ahead of those who would resist them. We Woodmen understand the careful line he must walk...lest he upset the nameless one and be fed to a Ring Wraith.

If his reply was not as worthy 'as news from Bree', then what might be? If your master does not desire news of heroes falling, of armies clashing, of wonderous items being retrieved, of bridges being sabotaged since the beginings of this war, what then is 'newsworthy' to Master Saruman?

We are interested in conducting a dialog, but we are not well used to the...novel...form your master chooses. Perhaps you could provide an example of the kind of information that he desires? Much it is that occurs in the Gap of Calenardhon, and something there might be of interest to those of us who live in the Greenwood. An example, well crafted, may prompt us to a better understanding of his needs and ultimately lead to useful information in return.

We look forward to an example of a newsworthy item, to better our understanding in the hopes we can be allies.


Mr. Forrest B. Woodword
-Press Undersecretary, Foreign Relations
Woodmen News Network

[benmin18]

Let me get this straight, neither side is capable of writing a report that tells any sort of meaningful news. If I have to resort to my own intelligence gathering I will be highly annoyed.

- Ben

[STEVENB]

Let me get this straight, neither side is capable of writing a report that tells any sort of meaningful news. If I have to resort to my own intelligence gathering I will be highly annoyed.

- Ben

What were you expecting? I would be shocked if anyone put detailed info out here for all to see. Would you really want to join a side that was stupid enough to reveal their secrets, plans and rumors?

Steve
SG

[benmin18]

What were you expecting? I would be shocked if anyone put detailed info out here for all to see. Would you really want to join a side that was stupid enough to reveal their secrets, plans and rumors?

Steve
SG

No, I wasn't expecting to hear full blown intelligence reports detailing who had what artifact, who is searching for what, what squads are forming, etc., but I did expect some realistic news that is readily known to both sides like a BATTLE REPORT or something like that. Saying that there's fighting on the map, characters have died, and artifacts have been found is useless.

There is common information on turn reports that cannot be hidden from the other side, and then there is information that is obviously secret that one's opponents are not privy too. I request the former and not the latter. If neither side is smart enough to figure out what information on one's turn report falls into which category, then I'm going to be sitting on my hands for a while.

- Ben

[Philipswi5]

Here is a quick summary of battle reports from NG:
1
NG armies quickly moved to 3123 and 3124 to block DS aggression.
2
3123: no battle, lots of staring.
3124: NG defeats WK starter army and FK forces.
3
3123: NG "blockers" defeated by IK.
3124: NG faces forces of WK, DkLts, FK. Argirion challenges and defeats Shagrat, Skargnakh challenges and loses to Ecthelion. FK army disbands and remaining DS armies are defeated.
4
3024: Ik defeats NG
3124: NG defeats FK, no WK army present.
5
3024: 4 armies of NG and SG face 4 armies of IK, FK and DkLts. FP win, Hoarmurath captured, stripped of artifacts, but escaped.
6
3024: NG and SG face FK army and defeat it. Strulug(FK) challenges Hero Golasgil and loses.

In summary three FK characters died in challenges but no PCs were lost or taken by either side. Both sides can claim successful holding action.

Philip
NG28

[benmin18]

Kudos to the Free People for submitting a report of quality and substance. We're now going into turn 7 and Osgiliath has yet to fall, correct? Impressive. How fare the battles in Mirkwood around Dol Goldur? I have heard that 2809 has fallen to the Free People, what of 3017, the NW road from Morannon, and the Rhun Sea area?

Dark Servants, what claims to victory can you make?

- Ben
White Wizard

[Prindy]

Saruman,

Good to hear from you! Hope your nation is doing well. I have not had the chance to visit the Forum for a few weeks and did not know you were accepting communications. I stopped writing when you did not answer my request for relations on turn 0.

While I will not go into detail as to who, if anyone, has died or give a detailed report of what artifacts we have retrieved or lost, or how are companies are coming together; I will tell you that our team is working well together.

The Freeps battle report is accurate, but it is not the sum of the game. Anything else that I would write would not be for the Forum, but for private communications.

Sorry to disappoint you.
Akhorahil

[benmin18]

Disappointing. I did not think that my request was too difficult in order to win my loyalty.

My choice is becoming much clearer. And I have no set time-table for declaring.

- Ben
White Wizard

[Faramir]

Hello Saruman,

Now that we have a better understanding of the level of detail you desire, please allow the Woodmen to apologize for our earlier confusion, and to post "newsworthy" events occuring along the upper Anduin.

Turn 1:
Woodmen and WK forces meet at 2405. The Woodmen defeat Angulion's icon.
Sinda forces occupy 2715, encountering Gaskburz of DL. Gaskburz' icon is defeated.
Roahn enocunters Grashukh at 2518, and the DS icon is destroyed along with the DS camp.

Turn 2:
Woodmen and Sinda forces encounter Ogrod's icon at 2613. The Free defeat Ogrod's icon.
Rohan intercepts Duran's force at 2518, and defeats it with the aid of Dwaithohir Eagles.
Dwarven forces under Dain attempt to occupy 3017, and are met by Mornadak's icon. Dain's icon is destroyed and he is captured.
The Free continue to occupy Dol Guldur unopposed.

Turn 3:
Northmen forces occupy 2809 unopposed.
The Free continue to occupy Dol Guldur unopposed.

Turn 4:
The forces of Rogrog move from 2305 to 2405. Two Woodmen icons destroy Rogrog's command.
The Dunedain occupy 2006, meeting forces of the WK under Bolg. Bolg's forces are destroyed.
Sarn Goriwing 2809 is now a Free pop center.
Mornadak's forces attempt to reinforce 2715 Dol Guldur, meeting forces of Taurnil. Taurnil destroyed Mornadak's forces, but was assassinated.

Turn 5:
Celeborn's icon occupies Dol Guldur, unopposed.

Turn 6:
Free forces occupy 2409, unopposed.
The Dunedain take posession of 2006 Mt. Gram.
The Free occupy 3017 unopposed.

And, as a DS deputy also noted, this is not the "sum of the game." There are of course artifacts to be found and encounters for gold to be had, areas where we Free also excel. Of course, you will need to join the Free to benefit from our artifact gathering program.

Cordially submitted for your review,


Mr. Forrest B. Woodword :cool:
- Secretary for Foreign Relations,
People's Democratic Front of Greenwood

[marinersk]

People's Democratic Front of Greenwood

PD FOG?

HAHAHAHAhahahahaahaahaah...

- Steve M.
Rhun Easterlings

[marinersk]

OMG Turns run in the morning and I have posted nothing.

Guess it's going to be a rush-rush-hope-we-get-it-right-this-time kinda' turn.

- Steve M.
Rhun Easterlings

[benmin18]

From the Duns:

To Saruman the White, First of the Istari and Lord of Angrenost: Greetings
from the [OOC- new} clan chief of the Dunlendings. We would speak with you
about territorial and other matters. We will discuss these matters to a
limited extent in public forums if you insist, but would prefer to do so
privately. We have also been in discussions with both the Free and Dark and
have learned much. We would parley with you on these topics as well, but
not in public. Should you be willing to discuss such matters privately, we
can be reached at mepbml-g28@yahoo.com. Yours faithfully, Enion, Clan Chief
of the Duns

All negotiations will be in public.

You stay out of my way, I will stay out of your's. You do what you want as will I.

- Ben
White Wizard

[STEVENB]

Ben & other neutrals:

Din Othar dead in a challenge at 3024.:D

This is the turn 7 battle report for SG. No DS armies at 3024.

News break: 800 defeat over 2,000 DS forces at 3124!:)

Battle at 3124
In the Mild climate of the Mountains of 3124, a conflict took place in the early afternoon during a driving
storm.
At the head of a highly energetic army rode Lord Angbor of the nation of Southern Gondor. The mount on which
he rode cantered anxiously along the side of the battle lines. Behind him the forming ranks were filled
with:
Troops Weapons Armor Formations
451 Dúnadan footmen w/broadswords wooden/bronze none/leather a mob
361 Lesser Dúnadan footmen w/shortswords bronze/steel leather/bronze ragged ranks
At the head of a rebellious army rode General Gothmog of the nation of the Dark Lieutenants. In his hands
was borne the glowing Flail called Skull Flail. The mount on which he rode moved with trepidation to the
center of the battle lines. Behind him the forming ranks were filled with:
Troops Weapons Armor Formations
1000 Troll footsoldiers w/battle axes wooden none a mob
250 Mannish slaves w/maces wooden none a mob
At the head of a demoralized army rode Captain Shurukhai of the nation of the Witch-king. In her hands was
borne the glowing Bow called Romoquenáro. The mount on which she rode stood cautiously at the rear of the
battle lines. Behind her the forming ranks were filled with:
Troops Weapons Armor Formations
400 Troll footsoldiers w/flails wooden none a mob
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At the head of a calm army rode Commander Carfe of the nation of the Fire King. The mount on which he rode
moved calmly to the front of the battle lines. Behind him the forming ranks were filled with:
Troops Weapons Armor Formations
400 Troll footsoldiers w/battle axes bronze bronze a mob
The Major Town of Minas Morgul flying the flag of the Witch-king is situated in the Mountains here. It is
fortified by a Castle.
Report from Angbor.....My commanders moved among the troops before battle, readying them, bolstering their
resolve, and issuing last minute orders. These troops didn't need much encouragement and waved and joked
with their Commanders, offering bets on who would find the best plunder. Finally the order was heard
coursing through the ranks.. Keep close ranks. Use standard formation. Like we practiced!
Against the forces of Carfe, our standard formation adjusted as they veered off and hit our flank.
After the battle had joined in earnest, heroes made their presence known all over the battlefield.
Report from Angbor.....Our foot soldiers were forced to fight the terrain as well as the enemy in these
boulder filled ravines and high trails. The troops fought very well, but more training would have raised
them to great heights. They fought with great spirit. Although the enemy fought hard, we finally succeeded
in overwhelming them after a long battle.
Commanders on the scene ordered their troops to salvage what they could from the remains of the enemy
forces..
Lord Angbor: 1 Food
After the battle.... Angbor's forces were victorious in the battle, but suffered some losses. Angbor
appeared to have survived. Gothmog's forces found no enemy armies to fight. Shurukhai's forces found no
enemy armies to fight. Carfe's forces were destroyed/routed in the battle. Carfe appeared to have survived
but suffers from light wounds.

[RoadRailer]

Ben & other neutrals:

Din Othar dead in a challenge at 3024.:D

This is the turn 7 battle report for SG. No DS armies at 3024.

News break: 800 defeat over 2,000 DS forces at 3124!:)

Battle at 3124
In the Mild climate of the Mountains of 3124, a conflict took place in the early afternoon during a driving
storm.
At the head of a highly energetic army rode Lord Angbor of the nation of Southern Gondor. The mount on which
he rode cantered anxiously along the side of the battle lines. Behind him the forming ranks were filled
with:
Troops Weapons Armor Formations
451 Dúnadan footmen w/broadswords wooden/bronze none/leather a mob
361 Lesser Dúnadan footmen w/shortswords bronze/steel leather/bronze ragged ranks
At the head of a rebellious army rode General Gothmog of the nation of the Dark Lieutenants. In his hands
was borne the glowing Flail called Skull Flail. The mount on which he rode moved with trepidation to the
center of the battle lines. Behind him the forming ranks were filled with:
Troops Weapons Armor Formations
1000 Troll footsoldiers w/battle axes wooden none a mob
250 Mannish slaves w/maces wooden none a mob
At the head of a demoralized army rode Captain Shurukhai of the nation of the Witch-king. In her hands was
borne the glowing Bow called Romoquenáro. The mount on which she rode stood cautiously at the rear of the
battle lines. Behind her the forming ranks were filled with:
Troops Weapons Armor Formations
400 Troll footsoldiers w/flails wooden none a mob
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At the head of a calm army rode Commander Carfe of the nation of the Fire King. The mount on which he rode
moved calmly to the front of the battle lines. Behind him the forming ranks were filled with:
Troops Weapons Armor Formations
400 Troll footsoldiers w/battle axes bronze bronze a mob
The Major Town of Minas Morgul flying the flag of the Witch-king is situated in the Mountains here. It is
fortified by a Castle.
Report from Angbor.....My commanders moved among the troops before battle, readying them, bolstering their
resolve, and issuing last minute orders. These troops didn't need much encouragement and waved and joked
with their Commanders, offering bets on who would find the best plunder. Finally the order was heard
coursing through the ranks.. Keep close ranks. Use standard formation. Like we practiced!
Against the forces of Carfe, our standard formation adjusted as they veered off and hit our flank.
After the battle had joined in earnest, heroes made their presence known all over the battlefield.
Report from Angbor.....Our foot soldiers were forced to fight the terrain as well as the enemy in these
boulder filled ravines and high trails. The troops fought very well, but more training would have raised
them to great heights. They fought with great spirit. Although the enemy fought hard, we finally succeeded
in overwhelming them after a long battle.
Commanders on the scene ordered their troops to salvage what they could from the remains of the enemy
forces..
Lord Angbor: 1 Food
After the battle.... Angbor's forces were victorious in the battle, but suffered some losses. Angbor
appeared to have survived. Gothmog's forces found no enemy armies to fight. Shurukhai's forces found no
enemy armies to fight. Carfe's forces were destroyed/routed in the battle. Carfe appeared to have survived
but suffers from light wounds.

Congrats!

Let's get real, If this is the kind of info Ben desires, then you may as well send your pdf to this site. Not taking anything away from your glorious moment, and it was a good one; but Ben has a good idea of what he wants to do already, just read the forum.

Ji

[fax]

Hmmmm. Looks like you defeated 400, not 2000...

[STEVENB]

Your right, I only defeated 400. For some reason, I was not attacked?

[jonsteer]

Add to that over 1500 DrL and BS troops defeated east of Mordor this turn with no losses to speak of and NM still have almost 2000 troops at your back door... facing about 500 defenders...

Obviously the fate of the last army that sortied out of the eastern gap towards Rhun has kept you very cautious but I don't mind coming to find you...

And, still no army on the DrL MT, looks like I'll have to make my own entertainment...

Jon

[benmin18]

Congrats!

Let's get real, If this is the kind of info Ben desires, then you may as well send your pdf to this site. Not taking anything away from your glorious moment, and it was a good one; but Ben has a good idea of what he wants to do already, just read the forum.

Ji

I love it when people make my decisions for me. Usually that sort of thinking comes to haunt people.

This is part of the information I asked for, but not everything considering that I have yet to hear anything of substance from the Dark Servants. Why don't you post up how the war fares for your side, from your point of view, then let me read it and I'll get a more complete picture.

- Ben
White Wizard

[RoadRailer]

I love it when people make my decisions for me. Usually that sort of thinking comes to haunt people.

This is part of the information I asked for, but not everything considering that I have yet to hear anything of substance from the Dark Servants. Why don't you post up how the war fares for your side, from your point of view, then let me read it and I'll get a more complete picture.

- Ben
White Wizard

Come now, I don't have that much power over you to make your decisions, Or do I:rolleyes:

I do not speak for my teammates as they can do that for themselves. But I will give you my take on the game so far. We are taking our lumps. What the Freeps have said is accurate and they've come out aggressive in all aspects and have had some good fortune at the tossup stuff. But we have had some success in other areas and I will allow my teammates to expand upon that. It's early and I'm not overly concerned.

As for the CL, Ji and friends will be making their rounds:D

Ji

[benmin18]

Come now, I don't have that much power over you to make your decisions, Or do I:rolleyes:

I do not speak for my teammates as they can do that for themselves. But I will give you my take on the game so far. We are taking our lumps. What the Freeps have said is accurate and they've come out aggressive in all aspects and have had some good fortune at the tossup stuff. But we have had some success in other areas and I will allow my teammates to expand upon that. It's early and I'm not overly concerned.

As for the CL, Ji and friends will be making their rounds:D

Ji

Influence, but not power.

It's obvious your teammates don't care to speak for themselves as evidenced from the Blind Sorcerer. Perhaps someone needs to speak for them.

- Ben
White Wizard

[benmin18]

Nobody has anything else meaningful to add? What a pity.

- Ben
White Wizard

[Ulysses212]

I have something to add.

Riders took out 3017 last turn. LR left a bunch of supplies for me, bless his little black heart. Apparently the DS are using the appeasement philosophy: "Ok, you take that, but go no further this turn. Please..."

The FP are just waiting for the storm to break. Each turn that storm gets further and further from us, the better, because we have the better weather making abilities and we're mobile. Still, five neutrals left to declare. I suspect what is taking so long is that neutrals are naturally inclinded to go DS, but the DS are naturally inclined to expect that, so everyone keeps their thumbs warm.

This game is a bit boring without the neutrals stepping in. Come on guys, let's not wear out the fence (Duns have a legitimate excuse, seeing as though that position is has been the red headed stepchild this game).

Jason, Riders

[benmin18]

The game is quite boring. From all fronts the Free seem to be closing in on Mordor, they've captured a number of important artifacts before the Dark Servants, and more notable DS characters have died than Free. Am I missing something? Dark Servants, care to retort?

- Ben
White Wizard

[Ulysses212]

What you say is true.

I wouldn't say the game is a washout, though. There are plenty of tricks/gambits/whatever the DS could utilize to counter-act the FP advances and such, but the creativity and teamwork needed to implement those seems to be lacking at the moment.

Unless the DS get a good neutral split, the road will be long and uphill for them. They better hope there is nothing coming the other way...

[RoadRailer]

The game is quite boring. From all fronts the Free seem to be closing in on Mordor, they've captured a number of important artifacts before the Dark Servants, and more notable DS characters have died than Free. Am I missing something? Dark Servants, care to retort?

- Ben
White Wizard


Well, somebody has to keep you entertained :D. This game is not anywhere near being over. It just lacks the forum dialogue from the more expressive. Ben, you say the Freeps have captured more notable artys before the DS. How did you come across that information? You didn't get lost on the Freep forum did you?:rolleyes: The Freeps have mentioned their artifact retrieval ability, but not the types or quantity. This is gonna be fun :D


Ji

[RoadRailer]

[QUOTE=Ulysses212;33856]What you say is true.

I wouldn't say the game is a washout, though. There are plenty of tricks/gambits/whatever the DS could utilize to counter-act the FP advances and such, but the creativity and teamwork needed to implement those seems to be lacking at the moment.


And how many pops have fallen in Mordor? Where is the FP advance coming from? Northmen? LoL:D; Gondor? pleeeeze:D

Each side has a claim to some unprotected spots and I imagine each side has left them unprotected for some unknown reason. Let's see how the next few turns pan out....

Besides, my agents don't start as Rogues. They need some training.;)

Ji

[benmin18]

Then fill in the gaps. Give me a complete picture.

- Ben
White Wizard

Well, somebody has to keep you entertained :D. This game is not anywhere near being over. It just lacks the forum dialogue from the more expressive. Ben, you say the Freeps have captured more notable artys before the DS. How did you come across that information? You didn't get lost on the Freep forum did you?:rolleyes: The Freeps have mentioned their artifact retrieval ability, but not the types or quantity. This is gonna be fun :D


Ji

[benmin18]

Dark Servants,

Your Lord Sauron and I seem to be looking for the same lost object. We are at an impasse, are we not? What do you propose?

- Saruman the White

[RoadRailer]

Dark Servants,

Your Lord Sauron and I seem to be looking for the same lost object. We are at an impasse, are we not? What do you propose?

- Saruman the White

Sauron is pleased w/the events that have transpired. To his minions, he preaches travel alone if you dare. Some listen, some listen no more. We have no ill will toward you Saruman. Please, present a proposal for Sauron to consider so that the lost object of your affection may lean your way in hopes that you may lean our way.:D

Saurons favorite,
Ji

[benmin18]

Sauron is pleased w/the events that have transpired. To his minions, he preaches travel alone if you dare. Some listen, some listen no more. We have no ill will toward you Saruman. Please, present a proposal for Sauron to consider so that the lost object of your affection may lean your way in hopes that you may lean our way.:D

Saurons favorite,
Ji

Dark Servants,

Inform your Lord Sauron that if he provides a more complete picture of how the war fares and this lost object then the Tower of Orthanc will be receptive to future overtures.

- Saruman the White

[RoadRailer]

Saruman, I will oblige w/a more complete picture for your amusement.

Let's see, where should we start? How about the East side of Mordor. Are the Northmen pleased w/their welcoming party? So far they've done ZERO damage. How about in the pass? Is SG happy w/the turn of events? Don't worry, we'll take good care of Angbor for you.:D Once again ZERO damage. Can't wait to see how much damage Duinhir will do w/his 100 heros:bash: Now NG, well done:fork: NG has made a move against the IK town at 3123 and appears poised to take it. No bother, the DS contingent will take Oz this turn and defeat the Gondorian armies there. To the north the IK and Riders will duke it out at the crossroads. In Mirkwood the Woodies lost a camp and were defeated by the Dog and both will battle again this turn w/hopefully similar results.:D The WK and Woody are engaged this turn and it does not look good for the Woods. As for other events, Sinda still sits at the DrgL cap and artys are being picked up by both sides. As for the neutrals, I don't know. Others are taking on the role of diplomat. It appears the open forum is not the ideal place for ongoing diplomacy. But I'm sure you know that;)


Til the next round' cheers:D

Ji

[Ulysses212]

Ahhh, yes, the FP made a choice on trading towns with the enemy. Mind you, a loss of 3024 is not such a big deal when you consider that 3123 is the cost for the DS. There's not much left to get to from 3024 if you're coming from the east...

And this is indeed the calm before the storm...

In other news and events, thanks for coming out to meet me at Buth Ovasia. I hope the IK brought some banjos and apple crisp.

Theoden

[benmin18]

Believe it or not, this is exactly the sort of thing I am looking for.

- Ben
White Wizard

[benmin18]

Good thing everyone is so chatty in this game.

- Ben
White Wizard

[RoadRailer]

Well I don't know about you Ben, but these silent times allow me to indulge in another of my favorite pastimes, College Football!! How bout those Wolves?

my Bruins r off to a great start!

Dan,
oh ya, Ji is pleased w/recent activity; we're just getting started :bash:

[benmin18]

Please elaborate on how and why Ji is so pleased...

Buckeyes rolled, Michigan lost - it was a good first Saturday.

- Ben
White Wizard

[Faramir]

Go Badgers!
Go Packer!
Go Woodmen! :)

[RoadRailer]

Go Badgers!
Go Packer!
Go Woodmen! :)


ok ok,
go my lowly Bruins; please go!
more importantedly, can my inept rogues pleeeeze GO!? :o

and to the remaining neutrals, the game is about to begin. :D


Cloudy
dwc122062@yahoo.com

[bgp0231]

Well i certainly hope not all the neutral go Free thus it will make game over too quickly, oh wait i hear 1 has joined our side maybe? Good Job freeps for decision making easier, still quite mad how an lv 30 commander wins an 210 order on Dîn

[MarkL]

Treat my lady right, now, fellas. Duns are free (although flip may or may not happen first try). :o Tip of the hat to Lord of the Clouds and the other first rate gents on the Dark side, but now down to brass tacks. The fun begins.:bash:

Oh, and by the way, I was born and raised in Michigan.:eek: :D

Good game to all,

Mark (Duns)

[RoadRailer]

Oh, and by the way, I was born and raised in Michigan.:eek: :D

Good game to all,

Mark (Duns)[/QUOTE]


Our team has come up w/a new nickname

Appalachian State Minions :D

we'll play soon,
Ji

[MarkL]

we'll play soon,
Ji

I'm sure we will. :) A good game to all.

Best,
Mark (Duns)

[jonsteer]

It's gone very, very quiet here... I guess the death of Saruman and his best commander have left the WW with very little to say (or no-one to say it...)

Jon

[RoadRailer]

It's gone very, very quiet here... I guess the death of Saruman and his best commander have left the WW with very little to say (or no-one to say it...)

Jon

Losing Saruman is the least of our worries at the moment.

Ji & friends
a hop/skip away

[RoadRailer]

Vargaelas is so toast! :mad: :fork:

[RoadRailer]

Ok, nice job on the cursors and assassins guys. But taking the WW cap w/3 emmys and 88 loyalty, now that's impressive!! Wish we could be so lucky w/any of our characters. Personally, I'm growing accustomed to seeing 100+ agents w/the kill bonus fail every other turn. And I'm not counting the WW guys;) or how about my 65m telling me there is only 95 timber stores at Minas T and we were prepared to take that damn thing down!

I guess we need a natural 100 mage to get some good intel on Minas T from now on. This is my first game in 2950 and I'm astonished at how many failed orders by 60+ characters. Ok I'm done bitching. And Vargalaes, I've not forgotten you :bash:

Ji

[Adunaphel]

I still don't see how those darn Free Peoples managed to flip the White Wizard capital with three emissaries. They must have had something else there. No matter. The Dark Servants shall never give in.

Adunaphel
Quiet Avenger

[PBrandon]

Ahh our secret loyalty reducer is still a secret....good :D

Paul
Rangers

[jonsteer]

88 loyalty, now that was impressive... ok, you're right, there were more than three emmys there - although not as many as at the IK MT we took...

Jon

[MarkL]

Yes, I have to say that worked nicely if it was at 88. :cool: Conversely my MT is still kicking despite two turns of repeated attempts. Will it last another? Keep your guys there and keep trying. We'll just keep offing your MTs while you're at it.:D

Duns

[RoadRailer]

Yes, I have to say that worked nicely if it was at 88. :cool: Conversely my MT is still kicking despite two turns of repeated attempts. Will it last another? Keep your guys there and keep trying. We'll just keep offing your MTs while you're at it.:D

Duns

dude, we're trying and failing. And we sorta don't have any choice but to keep tryin'; we lose Rohan and it's a mighty steep hill to climb. Right now, we're ecstatic if our purchase orders don't fail :eek: for real!

[marinersk]

Have the DS surrendered yet?

- Steve M.

[RoadRailer]

Have the DS surrendered yet?

- Steve M.

you're gonna have to do better than take our left arm and right leg. How's Hesnef doing these days? Oh I know, as good as the Corsairs! :D

Ji and friends,
ps. vargaelas, RIP

[MarkL]

Hey! You finally got it! I even boosted loyalty on you a bit, but you must have had a few 525s work this time. Congrats, and make sure you keep the streets clean, 'cuz I'll be taking it back soon. :p:bash:

you're gonna have to do better than take our left arm and right leg.

Okey-doke. We'll be coming for the other two shortly. :D

Enion and crew

[RoadRailer]

So Boyz of Mirkwood, Our battle of Ineptitude is a draw. We each come away w/nothing except a cold and a bandaide. Perhaps you'll catch pnemonia in our next meeting and no bandaids will be needed.:bash: :D

Muzzy

[marinersk]

How's Hesnef doing these days?

One expensive paycheck no longer on the books. Thank you.

If only you'd taken out the Army, too, then I could be donating money to the cause for a change.

[RoadRailer]

One expensive paycheck no longer on the books. Thank you.

If only you'd taken out the Army, too, then I could be donating money to the cause for a change.


I hope you learned a valuable lesson here; never, ever put backups in armies! :D

[marinersk]

So, have the DS surrendered yet?

Really, how much longer are the DS going to make us pay cash to ME Games for this farce? I feel like we've got Joe Montana and it's Super Bowl XIX all over again, except Marino's not getting his 300 yards this game.

- Steve M.

[RoadRailer]

So, have the DS surrendered yet?

Really, how much longer are the DS going to make us pay cash to ME Games for this farce? I feel like we've got Joe Montana and it's Super Bowl XIX all over again, except Marino's not getting his 300 yards this game.

- Steve M.


I think Joe threw an interception, to the FK! Hope that army is big enough to retake Pelargir and get 18000 timber back :D (but i think not;)) So, you feel pretty good about taking some capitals, do you? Can you count? we took 2 t-w-o MT's this turn and you took 1, that's o-n-e. :) This turn you guys get a real chance at prooving your worth. You have enjoyed much success at stealing from those who were indifferent or had a mild dislike of you, but now you've gone big time, because I H-A-T-E you all! :bash::D

For all of you visiting, I offer you amnesty of life to move on, else you'll all be resting w/those Corsairs comms that keep showing up here and there :D

Ji and Friends

[marinersk]

So, you feel pretty good about taking some capitals, do you? Can you count? we took 2 t-w-o MT's this turn and you took 1, that's o-n-e. :)

:: sigh ::

I'll take that as a "No".

- Steve M.

[jonsteer]

Um, well Ji, thanks for sparing our lives at your capital, sorry we couldn't do the same for your people there, or for that matter your capital, oh and another of your MTs, yes that's t-w-o MTs taken to your o-n-e :)

Jon

[RoadRailer]

Um, well Ji, thanks for sparing our lives at your capital, sorry we couldn't do the same for your people there, or for that matter your capital, oh and another of your MTs, yes that's t-w-o MTs taken to your o-n-e :)

Jon

LOL,
but that o-n-e was a sweeeet one indeed. bye-bye Corsairs! :D

Ji

[RoadRailer]

Ok, my gloating was limited to one MT and one line. Kudos to you all for the work at my capital! I did all I could to hold it, just couldn't match Alezru or should I say we never could win the 50/50 stuff in this game. Nonetheless, you guys had a fine strategy and we needed more time to counter it. Yes, needed as in past tense, as in you guys win. Our team would like to congratulate you all on some fine team play. And we look forward to meeting up again for future battles.

Overall, I thought our team rebounded from a very rough start regarding challenges and troop losses. We had a tough time coming together on what was important and that slowed our effort and strengthened yours. Without question, the most devasting part of your strategy was your emmys. Add in we lost the WK to bankrupcty when he was doing great! But this game is about the little details too. The WW position did not help us as he had 3 SS turns and to be honest, I think if that position had been more communicative, then our team would have been more receptive to his needs when you guys swarmed him. And finally, when you guys arrived at my cap (without invitations:mad:) this was our last stand. Well done! :)

See you all in other games,
Dan Cosby, CL

[jonsteer]

Hi Dan,

I was beginning to think that we'd let our advantage slip, you had been catching up well over the last few turns with some great work by Cl and LR (probably others but they were the most obvious), I think your efforts to save the WW cost you dear, I'll gather my stuff and post a summary of the game from our viewpoint if you like...

Oh, by the way, Corsairs got your backup MT so they are very much alive and kicking!

Jon
NM/Nol

[benmin18]

Overall, I thought our team rebounded from a very rough start regarding challenges and troop losses. We had a tough time coming together on what was important and that slowed our effort and strengthened yours. Without question, the most devasting part of your strategy was your emmys. Add in we lost the WK to bankrupcty when he was doing great! But this game is about the little details too. The WW position did not help us as he had 3 SS turns and to be honest, I think if that position had been more communicative, then our team would have been more receptive to his needs when you guys swarmed him. And finally, when you guys arrived at my cap (without invitations:mad:) this was our last stand. Well done! :)

See you all in other games,
Dan Cosby, CL

Yeah, I ss'd three times, which is more in one game than I have ever done the entire time I've been playing this game.

I lost interest in the game the instant I realized that there was very little direction on the Dark Servant team. For a neutral to join the team and then start dictating what people should do is not the best way to make an impression - so I just played my part and did what I could with the support I received.

If you are going to start critcizing poor play perhaps you should look in the mirror first.

- Ben

[MarkL]

Hey Dan,

Well, if this is really it, I would like to echo Jon's thoughts and say thanks for a hard-fought game on your end, particularly in the last few turns. I don't know much about what went on behind the scenes with the DS (hopefully, once it's official, we can all discuss some of the key moves/events in the game from everyone's perspective), but I would note that WW's communication style from the outset (by insisting that all diplo take place on the board) and, as I understand it, "surprise" declaration for the DS would seem to indicate a lack of team play (not saying you can't be a team player, Ben, just my impression of this game as an admitted outsider -- I freely admit this may be a misperception on my part and there may be many other reasons of which I know nothing).

I don't know how cohesive the rest of the DS was this game, but the FP in this game was most definitely a very cohesive team, with all players often doing things at much sacrifice to their nation for the betterment of the team. It was a major reason why I opted to go Free.

In any event, I'll post my congrats to my teammates, thanks to the DS, and more thoughts on the game once an official message goes out that it's over.

Best,
Mark (Duns)

[RoadRailer]

Yeah, I ss'd three times, which is more in one game than I have ever done the entire time I've been playing this game.

I lost interest in the game the instant I realized that there was very little direction on the Dark Servant team. For a neutral to join the team and then start dictating what people should do is not the best way to make an impression - so I just played my part and did what I could with the support I received.

If you are going to start critcizing poor play perhaps you should look in the mirror first.

- Ben



I call it like I see it. The FACT is our entire team was surprised by your declaration, but we welcomed your presence nonetheless.(as we needed experience and help) With zero dialog and then 3 special service turns, I call that piss poor individual play on your part, forget the teamwork aspect. If your intention is to blame the inexperienced players on our team for your 3 special service turns and lack of dialog, I call that chicken s---!

Each game brings different challenges, just not every player rises to address the challenges. I have no problem looking in the mirror after this game. Can you honestly say you feel the same ?


Dan

[RoadRailer]

Hi Dan,

I was beginning to think that we'd let our advantage slip, you had been catching up well over the last few turns with some great work by Cl and LR (probably others but they were the most obvious), I think your efforts to save the WW cost you dear, I'll gather my stuff and post a summary of the game from our viewpoint if you like...

Oh, by the way, Corsairs got your backup MT so they are very much alive and kicking!

Jon
NM/Nol


There were times when several of us felt we were turning the corner and then something else inhouse would put a damper on things. It's most unfortunate about us not being able to take out the Corsairs, but that is a credit to your team and to the Corsair player for hanging in there and not quitting as we know if was tough on him as well. I have no problem sharing any pdfs and I only have one question of you guys, How many emmys hit the WW capital? that was a critical play at the time.

Dan
CL

[benmin18]

I call it like I see it. The FACT is our entire team was surprised by your declaration, but we welcomed your presence nonetheless.(as we needed experience and help) With zero dialog and then 3 special service turns, I call that piss poor individual play on your part, forget the teamwork aspect. If your intention is to blame the inexperienced players on our team for your 3 special service turns and lack of dialog, I call that chicken s---!

Each game brings different challenges, just not every player rises to address the challenges. I have no problem looking in the mirror after this game. Can you honestly say you feel the same ?


Dan

The fact is that you called me out on my play without having examined your play first. It is not my place as a neutral to join a side and then dictate how that team should play. The DS team clearly 'lacked direction.' This is not an indication that any particular player played their nation well or poorly rather it is clearly indicative that the entire DS Team, myself included once I joined, was unable to pick any single strategy and stick with it.

I made my needs and intentions clear, that I would hold Angrenost and attempt to take 1922 as quickly as possible. I did the best I could with the support I received. Again, if you are going to call out individual performances, start with yourself. I played poorly. I SS'd a number of turns.

You did no better.

The game is over and I am done making comments on it.

- Ben

[RoadRailer]

[QUOTE=MarkL;56087]Hey Dan,

I don't know much about what went on behind the scenes with the DS (hopefully, once it's official, we can all discuss some of the key moves/events in the game from everyone's perspective)

I don't know how cohesive the rest of the DS was this game, but the FP in this game was most definitely a very cohesive team, with all players often doing things at much sacrifice to their nation for the betterment of the team. It was a major reason why I opted to go Free.


In my opinion that is where we failed the most. I commend the remaining players on our team as they faced difficult events during the course of the game and always tried to promote the team cause. There were 6 of us left playing 7 nations.

Dan

[benmin18]

Hey Dan,

Well, if this is really it, I would like to echo Jon's thoughts and say thanks for a hard-fought game on your end, particularly in the last few turns. I don't know much about what went on behind the scenes with the DS (hopefully, once it's official, we can all discuss some of the key moves/events in the game from everyone's perspective), but I would note that WW's communication style from the outset (by insisting that all diplo take place on the board) and, as I understand it, "surprise" declaration for the DS would seem to indicate a lack of team play (not saying you can't be a team player, Ben, just my impression of this game as an admitted outsider -- I freely admit this may be a misperception on my part and there may be many other reasons of which I know nothing).

I don't know how cohesive the rest of the DS was this game, but the FP in this game was most definitely a very cohesive team, with all players often doing things at much sacrifice to their nation for the betterment of the team. It was a major reason why I opted to go Free.

In any event, I'll post my congrats to my teammates, thanks to the DS, and more thoughts on the game once an official message goes out that it's over.

Best,
Mark (Duns)

We'll play again at some point, Mark. And I hope to be able to take our your capital when we do.

As for my intentions for this game, when I play a neutral I like to throw in a random variable - all negotiations being public was that variable. Unfortunately I started a new job and was unable to access this board for an extended period of time which in turn made my original intentions moot. However, now that I can access the board again I will try this approach with another neutral in a future game.

- Ben

[jonsteer]

Hi Dan, I don't have all the files with me but a quick look through emails puts the count at 11 at WW capital and 13 at 3223, all E55+

Jon

[RoadRailer]

The fact is that you called me out on my play without having examined your play first. It is not my place as a neutral to join a side and then dictate how that team should play. The DS team clearly 'lacked direction.' This is not an indication that any particular player played their nation well or poorly rather it is clearly indicative that the entire DS Team, myself included once I joined, was unable to pick any single strategy and stick with it.

I made my needs and intentions clear, that I would hold Angrenost and attempt to take 1922 as quickly as possible. I did the best I could with the support I received. Again, if you are going to call out individual performances, start with yourself. I played poorly. I SS'd a number of turns.

You did no better.

The game is over and I am done making comments on it.

- Ben


Wrong Ben,

I did not call you out on your play. I called you out on your lack of play. I have not the slightest clue of your playing ability. You are correct that our team lacked direction, that is not a surprise. But you are incorrect in that I played poorly. I have no problem sharing my pdf files. I simply stated the WW nation special service turns hurt our team and that the lack of dialog influences a players willingness to help one in need. This email is an example of our teams dialog, someone states an opinion and someone counters while never getting anywhere and stalling forward movement. Fortunately the Free team was above this and took some of us out of misery. While the game is over, I'll comment on questions and set the record straight if I feel it needs to be addressed. We all have our opinions, but we also have pdf files that show how each of us played.

enjoy,
Dan

[RoadRailer]

Hi Dan, I don't have all the files with me but a quick look through emails puts the count at 11 at WW capital and 13 at 3223, all E55+

Jon

I found that very impressive. Some people seem to think that emmys are less effective under the rank of 60 and will not use them against MT's. I've found that emmys in their 50's and even 40's can be effective at MT's, but I find it harder to influence others w/the risk/reward on this issue. I think our team used 7 emmys of 70 and above to take Pelargir. thanx for the info.

Dan

[jonsteer]

Well it was 12 at 2119 and 13 at 3223 that turn, the 2119 team then split up and went after smaller pops while the 3223 team took the Mordor MTs.

I think one of the best bits of the game for us had to be when our newly formed curse squad found themselves adjacent to a newly declared DS Saruman through a speculative RCT, great first kill!

Most nail-biting moment was RhE SSing when poised to take 3822, forced his taxes to the high 90s but survived to win the following turn.

Jon

[marinersk]

Most nail-biting moment was RhE SSing when poised to take 3822, forced his taxes to the high 90s but survived to win the following turn.

Jon's being polite. I was also responsible for 2/3 of the Mounts buyout that turn, and several nations dumped money on Mounts for no appreciable effect.

And then Winter came.

Well, gents, like the rest of the FP team, I'll of course wait for the official notice that the game is over before deciding to move on.

But, operating now on the assumption that the DS surrender is real, my thanks to everyone for making my last game of MEPBM so enjoyable.

And sorry for the mild heart attack I caused. :-)

- Steve M.

[Faramir]

Well,

As a final on this game, I'd like to thank first the DS for their spirited play. Going down 6 nations throughout the course of the game, and still managing to put up some fight was enjoyable. Thank you, all.

Next, I'd like to thank my team, who were well organized and very willing to help out those of us impoverished nations who would not otherwise have seen the spring. Beorn and his friends thank you all!

Last, I'd like to to thank the neutrals who joined us. A three/two split, with Duns, RE and Corsairs made for a map where we could put pressure on several fronts.

My two lessons from this game: Emys don't suck, and heavy cav does.

My thanks to all for a very fun game, especially since it's my first win!

James
-The (finally) Victorious Woodmen Nation of Game 28!!!