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leonidas
10th July 2003, 10:44 AM
Hmmm...
Would it be possible to have a UK vs. USA 1650 game? Or for that matter Canada vs. Germany or whatever country vs. whatever country game?
If I remember correctly, this used to be done way back when DGI ran things, but I guess it fell out of vogue.
Could this be done again, or am I just a delusional nationalistic agitator?
Anybody interested?
I
Player
10th July 2003, 11:17 AM
Check out the MEGames website. I don't know anything about DGI (? DGI??) but Harlequin's been doing it for years also.
Tried to create a Team Canada a couple years ago, but it fell through due to lack of interest. Still looking for the committed bodies....
Player
10th July 2003, 11:17 AM
Check out the MEGames website. I don't know anything about DGI (? DGI??) but Harlequin's been doing it for years also.
Tried to create a Team Canada a couple years ago, but it fell through due to lack of interest. Still looking for the committed bodies....
Nintelten
10th July 2003, 11:30 AM
Well...Game 77 (1650 Team) is currently a Canadian Dark team hehe.
Don't know what team makup we are facing though.
Elendar
10th July 2003, 11:48 AM
Team 77 FP make-up is:
7 greeks and 1 greekette
3 english
1 scot
This is the fourth game we play as a team however (with some slight changes from game to game). Will it also be our fourth victory? ;)
Nintelten
10th July 2003, 11:52 AM
Ooh...out come the taunts :)
The Darks are 6 Canadians.
So...6 vs 12 eh?
Guess makes co-ordination different.
So...where are the results of our last turn? You waiting as axiously as we are?
Hrm...guess we should take this to our game thread haha.
So...back to the thread.
Game 77 is Canada vs UK
leonidas
10th July 2003, 03:42 PM
Sorry, I misplaced my brain. I meant GSI. I don't know where I came up with DGI from, I'm as puzzled as you are!
Anyhoo, Greek vs. Canadians. Interesting. Anyone else want to defend their nation's honor via a 1650 grudge game?
Per Bovbjerg
10th July 2003, 08:08 PM
Hey Leonidas
We have a pure Danish Grudge Team, and are currently playing a FP team mostly of Americans.
Think the next game after that one will be against a Danish team also, but we might be able to figure out something.
Send me an email if you are interrested? (bovsan-nixbixspam@vikings.dk (Just remove the "-nixbixspam" from the mail)).
Assiniboine
10th July 2003, 08:50 PM
DGI was Deft Gaming. Remember the transitional phase between GSI & Harlequin?
Assiniboine
10th July 2003, 08:57 PM
My first game featured eight Canadians on the FP side (5 from Winnipeg & 3 from Toronto). We were crushed miserably after 55 (three week) turns. Have since tried to get a full Canadian team going without success.
leonidas
11th July 2003, 10:12 AM
I knew I wasn't making up DGI, I just couldn't remember for sure. I stopped playing right as they took over, just started back again.
Anyway, I didn't realize there was so many "national " teams already. Is there any way to set up some kind of tournament to see who's the best? You know, friendly bragging rights.
How about it, Clint?
Zalendar
11th July 2003, 10:46 AM
http://www.middleearthgames.com/
Click on News and Events, scroll down near the bottom.
Macman
11th July 2003, 01:55 PM
If you guys would play a grudge match in 2950, I'd be happy to jump on... 1650 is too static for my tastes... kinda like chess. Good game, but only so many opening moves, then you're stuck. Just my (twisted) opinion...
Macman
Proud-ish Canadian
Thelor 66
11th July 2003, 02:33 PM
Looks like we can probalbly have another trial at putting a Canadian team together What do you say guys? Player, Assiniboine and all others
Count me in but don't be surprize if I try to separate :D I am from Quebec after all
Jacques AKA Thelor 66
herman
12th July 2003, 10:47 AM
The Aussies have just defeated the USA (game 31, USA surrender T#27) and are as yet undefeated. We will be up for a challenge after a short hiatus.
Clint
12th July 2003, 08:45 PM
Anyway, I didn't realize there was so many "national " teams already. Is there any way to set up some kind of tournament to see who's the best? You know, friendly bragging rights.
It's already happening. It's called the World Championships. I have teams from Brazil, Uk (2), USA (2), Spain (2), Germany and we had a Scananavian. Not to forget the Aussie team (undefeated!) (Have I missed any?)
The new PRS (Player Rating System) will show the results and there'll be a regional part of the Grudge team to see who is the best that way I think. We're likely to do a Ladder system as well.
Clint
SMoyes
12th July 2003, 09:34 PM
Can we have a Florida only team? As we Floridians aren't really a part of anyone, we're above them all.
Scott from FLORIDA
leonidas
13th July 2003, 09:57 AM
:)
Sounds groovy. When will these regional tournaments start, and how are teams formed? Random or Grudge?
USA good, non-USA BAAAD!!! Jingoism, rah, rah, rah!!!(except for all my current non-American allies, you guys kick ass!):D
herman
13th July 2003, 10:22 AM
It's twelve aside pre-alligned. Rhu and Harad are DS and the Duns and Cors are Freeps, game on from the first turn. Good coordination and comunication is a must. It is a lot more cut-throat than a standard game.
Regards Herman (Junior Aussie Team Member) ;)
Arthedain73
13th July 2003, 11:30 AM
Back in the GSI days, state teams were common. I recall a Virginia versus Louisiana grudge game. The general availability of email seems to have diluted the state team concept.
leonidas
13th July 2003, 12:20 PM
So it sounds like your standard 12v12 grudge match, except a little more bloodthirsty. Right on! Where do I sign up? Can we organize a ladder tourney? Perhaps regionals for USA, Canada, Europe and Australia?
Stags
15th July 2003, 04:36 AM
Aussies are now 4 from 4 actually, we took out the Scandinavians on turn 13ish with the 2-1 rule before winning a classic game (34) against Ben's yanks who gracefully resigned. We are itching for the return game against the yanks, however word is this may take some time to organise. As Herman said, we're up for another game in the meantime if any team is keen.....
herman
15th July 2003, 05:14 AM
Stags,
do you think we should wind a few of these nations up with the Aussie team being "undefeated"and currently "the best in the world".
Do you think they will take the bait?
;)
herman
15th July 2003, 05:14 AM
Stags,
do you think we should wind a few of these nations up with the Aussie team being "undefeated"and currently "the best in the world".
Do you think they will take the bait?
;)
herman
15th July 2003, 05:18 AM
Clint,
i think it might be time to update the news and events section. that table is falling behind the times.
:)
emdun
15th July 2003, 08:29 AM
Note our Aussie team is a little bit multinational, with a Malaysian veteran, a sprinkling of top-notch US players, and of course herman, who is clearly from another planet.
And I think our last game vs. a US team was g31? G34 was last year when we crushed...hell, someone. The victories kinda blur after a while ;-)
MD
Player
15th July 2003, 09:03 AM
More than one non-Aussie means your team should lose its "National" moniker and simply be named after the Captain like any other team. (don't quote me rules or GM acceptance, please) Makes this 10 year long "World Championships" a little silly, don't you think? Especially after 2 (or more?) of the teams no longer exist due to lack of interest. I suspect Clint was right to ask last year how to make it more exciting and/or speed it up. Quaint concept, but clearly no longer meaningful, so it seems.
Canadian Brad
emdun
15th July 2003, 04:23 PM
Mmm, and mister Beckham playing for a Spanish team makes it Manchester does it? There's an 'Australian' pole vaulter called Gregoriava, a boxer called Kostya Tszyu and a tennis player called Jelena Dokic. Okay, she kinda changed her mind, but you get the idea. We'll take anyone. So if you grab eleven other players and decide to call yourselves the Senegalese national team, that's cool, we won't demand to see passports before we turn your characters into food colouring. "Aust vs. USA" or whatever just gives the comp a bit more shape than saying "Reggie's team, you know, those guys, the ones who beat those other guys."
MD
Arthedain73
15th July 2003, 04:43 PM
Good Grief! I agree with Player. You "Aussies" should send the Kuala Lumpur chap some naturalization papers. Or, maybe recruit a New Zealander. Or, maybe, call yourselves the "Australsians". I know deception is part of the game--but guys---.
herman
15th July 2003, 06:20 PM
If the 3 Yanks and 1 Malaysian are happy to go by the Moniker "Team Aussie" What business is it of anyones but our team. As my good friend emdun says it's a name to distinguish us from the other teams.
That and the fact there aren't that many of us (Aussies) playing the game (hell they are scraping the barrel getting me into the team) so we carry a few imports, live with it.
Or get your pure team together and teach us the error of our ways.:D
Arthedain73
15th July 2003, 06:39 PM
Well, now we know why the "Aussies" won. They had three Yanks on their team! It was actually a "Coalition victory".
Player
15th July 2003, 08:55 PM
It all simply reaffirms my point, doesn't it? "...clearly no longer meaningful...".
Stags
15th July 2003, 09:07 PM
Not entirely true, the team is made up of players who have a long history of playing with and against each other under the now defunct SFGA, who were the australian providers of ME before Harley took over. There's been the usual dropouts and replacements that any grudge team goes through but the core team has remained the same. Perhaps "Aussies & a few mates" would be a better team description, unfortunately there is not a large player base left from down under.
The world champ games more than anything else are about providing a level playing field, everyone plays under the same setup, there is no randomness with what neutrals decide to do, it comes down to team tactics as to who wins and loses, that is where is the "national" flavour can come to the fore :)
Player
15th July 2003, 11:21 PM
Explain "national flavour" involving 3 different "nationals" spanning different continents..? Hey, I'm not raining on your parade, I know the core members of this team are good. Let's not compare professional brand name sports teams to the olympics, though. Either you've got a team made up of nationals, or you don't. Otherwise, me and a couple other Canadians, maybe even that Quebecois, can call ourselves the new Scandinavian team because one of my friends is marrying a Swede...
Stags
15th July 2003, 11:49 PM
very funny :)
I think it comes down to the history of the team playing with and against each other, which originated pre harley days in australia. The strategy and tactics we adopt are "made in australia". Its more a case of circumstances. Yes, we've got some non aussies playing but we like to think they play like an aussie now :)
Player
16th July 2003, 12:48 AM
But....do they Drink like Aussies...? ;)
Stags
17th July 2003, 10:24 PM
one day Harley should organise a middle earth convention, give everyone a year or 2 lead time to arrange travel arrangements, make sure there is plenty of beer to drink and we're off! Then we can find out who are truly the world champs at middle earth and getting pissed at the same time. I'd say the Mexicans will be in with a good run, that Tequila is wicked stuff, I'm still recovering from the last weekend's lick, sip, suck! (as an interesting variation, try tequila suicides, you snort the salt, shot the tequila and squirt the lemon in your eye......)
Clint
18th July 2003, 08:35 AM
one day Harley should organise a middle earth convention, give everyone a year or 2 lead time to arrange travel arrangements, make sure there is plenty of beer to drink and we're off! Then we can find out who are truly the world champs at middle earth and getting pissed at the same time.
Do you mean a gaming w/end - well we do the FTF for that and will run it if we have enough players for it. We're pondering doing a convention ourselves sometime in the future. But for now we're going to 13 conventions this year - the two biggest being EuroGencon and USGencon (next week). If you're there come and say hello.
Clint
smuller
18th July 2003, 10:34 PM
as a player on the team of yanks who were defeated by the aussies..
call them what you will, but until they are defeated, they are WITHOUT PEER in the grudge arena. i am fortunate to play with top shelf american players, and we got lumped. with respect to above board issues, they are gentle,en in every sense of the word.
sm
yes stags, we are reorganized, and ready to have another joust.
1650 reverse match, perhaps. i still have a spot for your head on my mantle.
herman
18th July 2003, 10:58 PM
:)
What a great team the yanks are too.
I had a very steep learning curve as this was my first game. (talk about sink or swim!!) My fellow team members were all very happy to be pushed to new heights by this very formidable team.
MJ had many a late night phone call co-ordinating the defences during this match.
A reverse rematch would be great and I don't think it will be long before you hear from either of the team co-captains.
Regards Herman (Rhudaur G#31)
:)
Gixxer
19th July 2003, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by SMoyes
Can we have a Florida only team? As we Floridians aren't really a part of anyone, we're above them all.
Scott from FLORIDA
Hi Scott,
that would mean Darren will play with this team ?!
Okay !
In the case Clint will be able to find some German-players to join,
I'll do it !
Could be interesting !
Have Fun !
Gixxxer
emdun
23rd July 2003, 07:06 AM
Player said:
"I know the core members of this team are good. Let's not compare professional brand name sports teams to the olympics"
Hey, did someone call us 'professional'? Or BRAND NAME?? Heh, you obviously never watched us organising an attack two hours before the deadline if you think we're professional. But thanks!
And I say if you want to grab a bunch of Canadians and call yourselves Scandinavians, great! Kinda weird, but I'm fine with that.
I'm curious: would the game be better if we called ourselves the "Not all Aussies, but mostly" team? Maybe we could make a team name based on an amalgam of our captains' names. That'd be MUCH better...
emdun
23rd July 2003, 07:06 AM
Player said:
"I know the core members of this team are good. Let's not compare professional brand name sports teams to the olympics"
Hey, did someone call us 'professional'? Or BRAND NAME?? Heh, you obviously never watched us organising an attack two hours before the deadline if you think we're professional. But thanks!
And I say if you want to grab a bunch of Canadians and call yourselves Scandinavians, great! Kinda weird, but I'm fine with that.
I'm curious: would the game be better if we called ourselves the "Not all Aussies, but mostly" team? Maybe we could make a team name based on an amalgam of our captains' names. That'd be MUCH better...
thelebk
23rd July 2003, 06:14 PM
I would play on a national team if I could play on the UK team. I find the UK players more interesting than my fellow Americans <g>.
Brian H
herman
23rd July 2003, 06:21 PM
:eek:
I think you may have to play as an import after that comment!! your fellow Yanks may take exception to it. ;)
thelebk
23rd July 2003, 06:44 PM
If speaking truth means I get flamed... so be it... Truth is the greatest of all virtues.
Brian H.
Arthedain73
23rd July 2003, 06:58 PM
Yes, but which one do you want? The truth? The whole truth? Or, nothing but the truth?
thelebk
23rd July 2003, 07:21 PM
When King Arthur asked Merlin which virtue of the Knight was the greatest, Merlin replied, "Truth, for without that there is nothing."
I'll take that one. ;)
Brian H.
jasonab
24th July 2003, 01:44 AM
Originally posted by thelebk
If speaking truth means I get flamed... so be it... Truth is the greatest of all virtues.
Brian H.
Truth is a virtue only when spoken with tact and kindness. Being a jerk is not a virtue.
jason
Arthedain73
24th July 2003, 12:27 PM
I'm reminded that Pilate asked Christ "What is truth?" John Boorman, Merlin and others might well follow Christ's example in that issue.
Player
24th July 2003, 01:12 PM
Wow. You've gotta love where threads can end up on these boards...
I guess, somewhere in here, Pilate sneered at some moral tenet he heard, scoffing: "What's in a name? Who cares how many Yanks are on the Australian team anyway?" Merlin is conjuring a "Dispel Prejudice" spell for the American UK lover, and Emdun is challenging Herman to a spelling bee to see who can spell the last names of the team captains backwards the fastest...
Okay. I finally found my cold pint. See you all around when Team Candanavia is ready to issue it's first challenge...
Brad
Sam Q
24th July 2003, 01:47 PM
Uh, is this where we are organizing teams? Where do i sign up?
thelebk
24th July 2003, 05:12 PM
Jason B--
Some topics are not easily sugar cooated, and no matter how you do there are always people who will take offense as you have done. Now if I wanted to be a "jerk" about it as you seem to think , I would have sarcastically posted an entire litany of reasons as to why I feel the way I do, and I certainly would not have used emoticons in my post.
Rather than attempt constructive engagement of someone who has an opinion you do not understand, you stoop to labelling and name calling. Your reaction was overly emotional, and frankly immature; and ironically is an example of some of the reasons I prefer to play with native UK members. :(
Brian H.
Player
24th July 2003, 05:19 PM
Jason and Brian are welcome to ask me for the other's email address, as this in unwarranted in a public forum. Also, from what I know of you both, there is No Winning Here!
We're all about assassination, slaughter, and pillage here folks...nice light topics, let's keep it easy....
Brad
jasonab
24th July 2003, 11:44 PM
Originally posted by thelebk
Rather than attempt constructive engagement of someone who has an opinion you do not understand, you stoop to labelling and name calling. Your reaction was overly emotional, and frankly immature; and ironically is an example of some of the reasons I prefer to play with native UK members. :(
Brian H.
Thanks for confirming Brad's observation.
jason
leonidas
25th July 2003, 05:27 AM
:mad:
Miscreants have hijacked the thread I started!
Does it really matter what country a "free agent" comes from as long as the national team he wants to play with accepts him?
Turning this thread into a forum where personal attacks are launched at others is childish. I think that's true no matter what country you hail from.
Can't we all just get along, start some games up, and beat the crap out of each other?
Leonidas
Player
25th July 2003, 09:17 AM
I agree with the crap-kicking Leo. Won't comment on the personal attacks. Don't agree that "free agency" and "national teams" go together. "Bills Bacardi Bunch" can have folks from all over the world, if they like. Team Canada is for Canadians. Very simple.
When some of us who've commented here were thinking of putting together that very same Team Canada last year, I was advised by the company that the World Championship teams were held to a "general rule" of 1 import. Fair enough, even a purist like me could accept that, gives you someone to blame.. ;) But 4~? No, it's not a national team anymore.
MEGames is planning on rating "teams" with the Player Rating System. These teams will be named after the "Captains". So Bill, the Bacardi Breather mentioned above, can roll over as many players from as many Caribbean vacationing nations as he'd like, but it's still His team. His name is on the rated list, he gets the credit and takes the barbs. You want to move to the next level and be a National Team, you make up a team of Nationals.
Brad
herman
25th July 2003, 10:19 AM
I think we would be struggling to find 12 Aussies playing at any one time. There is only 1 other Aussie playing that I know of or have seen posting besides the guys in the team.
These guys have been playing as Australia for a lot of games now and as a team are yet to be beaten. To my knowledge no one else has had a whinge about the name of the team, including the guys running the show. So untill they say otherwise we are and will remain "Team Australia"
"Aussie, Aussie, Aussie!..... Oi, Oi, Oi!"
:D
Player
25th July 2003, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by herman
whinge
Hate to be a pest, but I've seen the UK guys use this word on occasion and now an Aussie... In North America we have a word spelled "whine", pronounced "wine". What's the "G" for? Is this the Non-NA version of this word or a different one? Same meaning or slightly different? Eh?
Many thanks,
Brad Crossing the Cultural Divide
ps - And, if your national team doesn't qualify, it don't play. If there aren't enough bobsledders in Jamaica, they either don't compete or don't get as many sleds as the Austrians. World Cup Football (soccer..? eh?) only has those participants who qualify (note I'm a Canadian here...we qualified once, didn't score a goal...ohhh the pride...). World Championship Hockey doesn't have a bunch of displaced Canadians calling themselves Team Namibia.
Tomato, tomahto. But as you said, MEGames is happy with the compromise, so be it. You like it, you like it. I now know, for absolute sure, that the World Championships is a dead tourney that could likely use some reviving. I suspect any "team" competition will likely end up in another (non-"national") form.
Brad
pps - When all is said and done, maybe you guys should, no matter what, KEEP the name Team Australia....let's the rest of us know who to avoid playing... ;)
herman
25th July 2003, 11:30 AM
Whinge : Complaint/ be ungrateful/ complain.
Usually used in reference to the English as in "Whingeing Pom"
Last time I looked there weren’t many Liverpudlians playing for Liverpool or a majority of locals in any other city team playing most sports but that doesn’t stop them being called after the cities name. This team was organised in Australia, played under an Australian run moderator, is captained by Australians and thinks Australian. (ie there is much alcohol consumed during the organising of orders)
We don’t have enough compatriots playing to field a full squad of pure breeds so we are given a few extra imports who have been playing together as a team predating the service in its current form back when it was run from Australia. They are Aussies as far as I’m concerned and as far as everyone they have played is concerned. You don’t want to play us because we are not a pure team, that’s your call but don’t go demanding a change because it doesn’t suit your way of thinking, every one else has been fine with it since their first game as Australia and they were here as a team long before you. Stop whingeing!
:p
Player
25th July 2003, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by herman
Last time I looked there weren’t many Liverpudlians playing for Liverpool or a majority of locals in any other city team playing most sports but that doesn’t stop them being called after the cities name.
Don't know Football. Do know that in North America we can recognize the distinct difference between the the Montreal Canadiens "professional" hockey team and Team Canada. That's why I brought up the professional vs Olympics comparison - they are not the same.
As I said, you like it and the company shrugs its shoulders, so there's nothing to be done. You're talking a marketted version of practical reality, I'm being idealistic. I understand what you're saying, I've read little evidence that it goes both ways. I guess if we're neither listening nor thinking, we're left to trying to out-shout or out-clever the other guy. Since neither of us are Americans, that leaves out the shouting...and since we both drink beer and play magic sword games with dragons, I suspect the analysts would take issue with any claims to cleverness ;)
Cheers,
Brad
herman
25th July 2003, 12:01 PM
Even the Olympics will allow nations to compete even though their athletes shouldn't be there as they are nowhere near competitive enough. (Eddie the eel from the Sydney games is a perfect example) To refuse the country entry would diminish the spectacle.
We will agree to disagree on this issue. :p
At least when our countries have a "World series" competition it involves more than two countries. Will you guys ever get a cricket team organised?, even Bangladesh are playing these days. (9 for 290 something Vrs us Aussies on the first day, bloody good effort)
:cool:
Player
25th July 2003, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by herman
We will agree to disagree on this issue.
Um, I have to disagree with that! ;)
You mentioned the Olymipics. So, find 12 Australians who'll play for beer and if the quality of your team goes down. Well, you just explained it yourself. Lots of players, and your National Team will more likely be better than the Nation who has 1/3 as many players. See Jamaicain bobsled example, or Eddie the Eagle skijumping for Britain at Calgary Olympics ('88?). Lots of money to buy free agents, and your Team (note the lack of the world "National") can dominate the League.
You mentioned some unknown competitive endeavor named for a chirping insect. Well, when those countries compete in these "world championships", than are not the players on the Bangladesh team considered nationals of Bangladesh? More agreement.
So you obviously know what I'm talking about and agree that what I'm saying is true, but as I've pointed out, you don't give a fig because it's allowed. Lots of things allowed, depending on what part of the world you're in. Bureaucratic regulations have nothing to do with ones ideals. So we agree entirely on everything, it would actually seem (except agreeing) and really aught to simply meet in the middle (Hawaii?) for a cold beer and kill some Freeps...
Brad
Player
25th July 2003, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by herman
We will agree to disagree on this issue.
Um, I have to disagree with that! ;)
You mentioned the Olymipics. So, find 12 Australians who'll play for beer and if the quality of your team goes down. Well, you just explained it yourself. Lots of players, and your National Team will more likely be better than the Nation who has 1/3 as many players. See Jamaicain bobsled example, or Eddie the Eagle skijumping for Britain at Calgary Olympics ('88?). Lots of money to buy free agents, and your Team (note the lack of the world "National") can dominate the League.
You mentioned some unknown competitive endeavor named for a chirping insect. Well, when those countries compete in these "world championships", than are not the players on the Bangladesh team considered nationals of Bangladesh? More agreement.
So you obviously know what I'm talking about and agree that what I'm saying is true, but as I've pointed out, you don't give a fig because it's allowed. Lots of things allowed, depending on what part of the world you're in. Bureaucratic regulations have nothing to do with ones ideals. So we agree entirely on everything, it would actually seem (except agreeing) and really aught to simply meet in the middle (Hawaii?) for a cold beer and kill some Freeps...
Brad
herman
25th July 2003, 12:35 PM
No, I was poking fun at the Yanks for their World Series Baseball which involves....... uhh America and uhhh can't seem to place many other nations in that 'World Series'.
As for Cricket and Rugby (Roll on the World Cup!) there are several other nationalities playing for teams other than their country of birth as it is usually the country you live and play your first senior games in that count most, not just the country of birth. There are several Australian and English citizens that are eligible to play for either England or Australia.(Born in one country, grew up playing in another) Tony Greg was a South African who went and played for England. Keppler Wessels was a South African who played for Australia and then went back to South Africa and represented them. Rod Marsh is an Australian coaching the English national junior side.
(He is secretly playing subliminal tapes telling the players they are duds!)
Our Yank and Malay compatriots are happy to play for Australia and we consider them honorary Aussies.
If a team is comprised of ¾ of a specific nationality and there are not enough players from that country to fill the vacant positions I cannot see any problems with them filling the blank posts with adopted players as long as the team remains constant it should be considered fine to be a “national” team.
I still think you are whingeing.
:p
Player
25th July 2003, 12:55 PM
Originally posted by herman
I still think you are whingeing.
:p
Well, since MY English language doesn't recognize this as a word, I can't help but disagree with you there. :p
herman
25th July 2003, 01:06 PM
Well since it is in English dictionaries and the language is 'English' I think you will just have to live with it.:p
herman
25th July 2003, 01:09 PM
I just became a member, you little beauty!:D
gingerprince
25th July 2003, 01:31 PM
Herman, technically World Series baseball can involve teams from Canada too - and features players from many countries. As I'm sure Brad knows. Although the Blue Jays are slipping well behind the Sox now. :)
As for the argument of who should be in a national team the answer is easy - those who fulfil the selection criteria of that nation. National teams consist exclusively of people who have a right to play for the team (by birth, residency, or parentage). One you've decided to play for one team, you can't change your mind. Many players can choose between playing for, say, England or Oz because they fulfill selection criteria for both, but you can't play for both.
Should that strictly apply to national teams in this game? Probably not. Countries like Oz and Scotland would struggle to get 12 players together. I think there's only 4 or 5 of us Scots playing.
Still - we'd take you all. :)
<paints face blue> "You may take out lives, but you'll never take our... (etc)"
Paul
Arthedain73
25th July 2003, 01:36 PM
Since, by wishing hard enough, you can make things so--I hereby declare the word 'whingo' to mean "champion boxer".
Sam Q
25th July 2003, 01:51 PM
I'll take you all on. hehe
Actually, is there any interest among some of you to form up some teams? I'd sure like a chance to take on the Aussies ... er, I mean ... yeah, Aussies! What the hell. Even if they promptly return my ass to me, it'ld be good to spill some of their blood!
"Bring on the sexy stewardess."
"Actually, we're called flight attendants now."
Player
25th July 2003, 02:09 PM
I'm a WHINGO! I'm a WHINGO!
Hell has frozen over and the Maple Leafs will win the Cup....Thanks Ed... ;)
ps - Blue Jays? Like Dr Seuss, I have faint recollections....
herman
25th July 2003, 09:32 PM
Whingo ........ more like Whacko if you ask me. ;)
The rest of the world still has a giggle every time we hear about the World Series Baseball, at least you could have the decency call it the Northern America series but World, that's drawing a very long bow. :rolleyes:
(bunch of sissies, the fielders need a glove to be able to catch the ball.) :p
(before you yanks howl me down I have played baseball at high school, It's not as challenging as cricket and is nearly as booring as cricket to watch as a spectator)
gingerprince
26th July 2003, 10:30 AM
Ah, cricket.
A wise man once said that God created cricket to allow mankind an idea of what eternity feels like.
And it's the only sport in the world that features scheduled meals.
Afternoon tea anyone?
Paul
leonidas
26th July 2003, 10:50 AM
:D
Gingerprince,
I'm also a proud member of Red Sox Nation, exiled in Minnesota. My wife loves the Twins, but at least she hates the Yankees! The quip about the rest of the world snickering everytime North America has a World Series: As soon as anyone else in the world can field a baseball team that can compete with us, do so. Otherwise...
Can we start getting a list of names for teams or what? There seems to be plenty of interest. Or are we just going to talk about it and go off on wild tangents?
gingerprince
26th July 2003, 12:06 PM
Leonidas,
I'm really a Red Sox nation immigrant - baseball's not that big in Scotland! I was at Fenway last night. Great game but - bah, Yankees suck. :( Still there's always today...
Wild tangent over - I'm game to be in a Scottish/British/Red Sox-loving team, whatever.
murmur
26th July 2003, 12:28 PM
TEAM NAMES:
Instead of International Teams , perhaps what we need is a champions league of teams...with made up names: Not "Stags Kinda Aussies", something stupid like THE FLAMING HAMSTERS! or ELVES SUCK! More in the spirit of a few of us old-time role-players and less jingoistic. except on the boards ;-)
I`m sure a few of my regular team-mates like [*whispers softly*] Ben Min, Fletcher Brown & Russ Floyd and I have had a discussion about this in the past...the trouble is our teams seem to change so much due to alienating allies...
Hmmm, what would you call yourselves given artistic freedom?
i think our g222 or g225 teams might become "THE EVENTUAL LOSERS"...
herman
26th July 2003, 01:22 PM
Name the number of countries that 'regularly' play competitive international baseball? Is there any sort of annual international competition for baseball?
Cricket has 8 regulars and twenty something during the World cup. Most of them are easy beats though. ;)
Mind you it is the only game in the world that can go for 5 days and still end in a draw. That's dedication for you! ;)
Just as an aside if you Yanks want to see a real mans sport check out the Rugby World Cup being played in Australia soon. These guys hit each other harder than your Grid Iron blokes and without the protection of all the armour and helmets. I personally think these guys are insane!! :eek:
Loke
26th July 2003, 10:51 PM
Hi There
Game 86 is a nation game(grudge), we are 13 danes agaist 11 americans. An all danish team vs the US + one traitor.
Loke
Clint
4th August 2003, 01:24 PM
These teams will be named after the "Captains".
You can name your teams if you want. ;)
Clint
Arthedain73
4th August 2003, 04:06 PM
Believe I will call my team the Aussies 2. Or, perhaps, the Aussies Too.
herman
4th August 2003, 05:51 PM
You can call yourselves whatever you want mate, because as Aussies we really don't get wound up by such things. We all live by the motto "No worries".
:cool:
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