Crazy Questions

[JRoberts]

I am in a game where I sent Urzahil to pick up the Ring of Wind. There were two characters of the Sinda in the square...Tharudan and Nimrodel. I did not get the encounter but did perschall tharudan and killed him handily.

Nimrodel was not present in the square the following turn but another LAT revealed the artifact was still there. I assumed this meant she probably got the encoutner and and died fighting spirits because tharudan was killed by me.

I gave the investigate and react encounter orders, another character came into the square and gave the find artifact and pick up artifact orders....all failed.

That was on turn 6 or so...now I'm on turn 18 and still the RofW can't be picked up...no one is getting the encounter message to investigate nor are we able to give any orders to plainly pick up the dawgone thing.

I have killed several free people in the mean time who show up to pick it up...all by perschall.

There is an agent in the square this turn and I have an emi there to double him...

my question is....how in the world can I not get the artifact?


2) why can't dragons/sea wyrms join up with armies attached to navies?

3) Do the army/character encounters with the glaring exception to dragons occur in 4th age? I have read somewhere that a guy recruited ents in his 4th age game? Do the other encounters work too? If so why? How is it fair that freeps can recruit eagles and ents but darkies can't get the dragons?

[benmin18]

Well, first make sure that you ping the artifact and make sure it's still there. Then try using a mage with a good mage rank and issue the 900 findart order once or twice to get it. I've found that at least a 60 mage will find most arties on the first try.

- Ben

[Krizzel]

I experienced something similar to what you describe in a 2950 game. The RoW was located in 3107. The DS and FP both tried to pick it up a few times, and for us at least (the FP) we kept getting the dragon encounter instead. FindArt didn't work (I think I tried it with Ringlin).

I think maybe the artifact encounter was 'hidden' behind the dragon encounter (or was it trolls? obviously I don't play a lot of 2950 - I can't remember what the default encounter for Lonely Mountain is). I know the FP never managed to pick up the RoW. Not sure about the DS but I don't believe they did either. Perhaps if any of them see this they could reply? This was game 220 (not the current game 220; the one before that). I know the Dark Lieutenants ended up building a pop center there, at least.

[Ahtunowhiho]

I appreciate your answers Gents,

Looks like another taker has the Ring now,,,I'll have to email him when the game is over and ask how he got it.

Any further takers on the 4th Age question? Why are the encounters allowed for ents, and presumably eagles, woses, lossoth,,,etc,,,,,,,,but not dragons?...just curious.

[lionatus]

Even if you don't get an encounter message if you 290 you'll get the resulting Riddle or Encounter to 285.....

Sometimes can fail, try again. Generally works.

3107 has an encounter that just gives a winding tunnel etc. Dunno what happens with repeated 290s. Also has dragon encounter. Even getting that you can 285 and 290 and stay in the hex if you want to risk it.........

[lionatus]

2nd confirmation that a 285 FLEE followed by a 900 and arty no. is the way to go for the Druedain in the cavew encounter. A 3rd confirmation will set this one in stone and I'm lucky enough to have the encounter again.