Re: [mepbmlist] Re: Victory Points

[bgb]

--- GearonSkywalker <garyaswegan@...> wrote:
> Brad,
>
> I am getting ready to release an article for Bree or the web site
> that will make people stand up and look at Victory Points in a whole
> new light.

I look forward to it.

> As for Orome, he is a pretty big dude...found lots of good stuff on
> him but only exact spot he pops up is Arda...and I think this is a
> longshot at best on this riddle (Arda = too broad).

"...found lots of good stuff.."

Meaning, you've found him on searchs, Tolkein encyclopedias, but
NOT in the Silmarillion...? That's where it's all from, I'd bet
you'd find a mention of him, his tastes, activities, and multiple
place names if you tried hacking through the index.

> Thanks for the help,
> Gary
>
> p.s. I was told by Clint that a possible POP equation is: a camp is
> 1xloyalty, VIL = 2xloyalty etc for an additive "score" which yields
> RANK. I am testing this now.

I like "possible" ;-) That's the initial assumption, pretty basic.
Might simply be a Total pop size (1-5) X an Average Loyalty. More
basic, but this is an old program.. ;)

Brad

[Ovatha Easterling]

Clint's speculation on victory points and pops and their loyalties is
absolutely correct. As for testing it, that can be done by NOT making camps
and using your emissaries to improve your starting pop centers. Have done
this several times and you get, far and away, more victory points by
concentrating emissaries on pop upgrades.

>From: "GearonSkywalker" <garyaswegan@...>
>Reply-To: mepbmlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
>To: mepbmlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
>Subject: [mepbmlist] Re: Victory Points
>Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 23:23:10 -0000
>
>Brad,
>
>I am getting ready to release an article for Bree or the web site
>that will make people stand up and look at Victory Points in a whole
>new light.
>
>As for Orome, he is a pretty big dude...found lots of good stuff on
>him but only exact spot he pops up is Arda...and I think this is a
>longshot at best on this riddle (Arda = too broad).
>
>Thanks for the help,
>Gary
>
>p.s. I was told by Clint that a possible POP equation is: a camp is
>1xloyalty, VIL = 2xloyalty etc for an additive "score" which yields
>RANK. I am testing this now.
>
>
>
>--- In mepbmlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, bgb <pbmnoot@y...> wrote:
> > The rules on Victory Points should explain it as well as
> > anyone ("...related to size, quality..." etc, blah blah).
> > I don't believe I've ever run across any kind of deciphered
> > formula regarding what exactly a Town is "worth" compared to
> > a "Village" and how loyalty works into that, etc. Same for
> > troop type, armour, weapons. Once heard the Army Points are
> > directly related to the nation's total Strength and Constitution,
> > but I don't believe the company (even if THEY know...) usually
> > let that kind of information out...
> >
> > As for Orome in your other message, he sounds like a serious
> > dude from the Silmarillion. I'm quite sure they're looking for
> > the name of a specific place...and I don't think it's in Middle
> > Earth....
> >
> > I'm wondering why you're that interested in Victory Points?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Brad
> >
> > --- GearonSkywalker <garyaswegan@y...> wrote:
> > > Anyone know how victory points are given out for ARMY and POPS?
> > >
> > > Also how does a TIE (rare thou it may be) get scored?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Gary
> > >
> > >
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[bgb]

--- Ovatha Easterling <ovatha88@...> wrote:
> Clint's speculation on victory points and pops and their loyalties is
>
> absolutely correct. As for testing it, that can be done by NOT
> making camps
> and using your emissaries to improve your starting pop centers. Have
> done
> this several times and you get, far and away, more victory points by
> concentrating emissaries on pop upgrades.

Oooh Goodie. This is useful knowledge. Use your newly named
30 point emissaries to Improve Pops! That's great. I can't wait
for an "ally" to *Try* that, and then explain it away by saying:
"I'm trying to build victory points!"...

Brad

[bgb]

--- David Clemmensen <david_clemmensen@...> wrote:
> who gives a S...

Trivial thread, but interesting, as many different aspects of
the program work along similar lines, no?

If you have a particular problem with the whole idea of Victory
Points itself, feel free to express your mature, rational, and
well thought out views. But otherwise, please retain control
over this kind of childish outburst.

Brad

[David Clemmensen]

OK i thin that the only good thing aboute Vp is that it can some times be used to calculate the strength of the oposision.
this game is a team game. the team wins or loses not singel players. but ther was a werry long discosion on this subjegt some time agoe on this list so lets not bring it up agaien

david
----- Original Message -----
From: bgb
To: mepbmlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Re: Victory Points

--- David Clemmensen <david_clemmensen@...> wrote:
> who gives a S...

Trivial thread, but interesting, as many different aspects of
the program work along similar lines, no?

If you have a particular problem with the whole idea of Victory
Points itself, feel free to express your mature, rational, and
well thought out views. But otherwise, please retain control
over this kind of childish outburst.

Brad

[bgb]

Agreed totally. Thanks. Recall, the gentlemen who started
this thread mentioned that he was writing an article in Bree.
Let's see what its all about when it comes out...

Brad

--- David Clemmensen <david_clemmensen@...> wrote: > OK i thin
that the only good thing aboute Vp is that it can some
> times be used to calculate the strength of the oposision.
> this game is a team game. the team wins or loses not singel players.
> but ther was a werry long discosion on this subjegt some time agoe on
> this list so lets not bring it up agaien
>
> david
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: bgb
> To: mepbmlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 7:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Re: Victory Points
>
>
> --- David Clemmensen <david_clemmensen@...> wrote:
> > who gives a S...
>
> Trivial thread, but interesting, as many different aspects of
> the program work along similar lines, no?
>
> If you have a particular problem with the whole idea of Victory
> Points itself, feel free to express your mature, rational, and
> well thought out views. But otherwise, please retain control
> over this kind of childish outburst.
>
> Brad
>
>
>