Re: [mepbmlist] Colour Maps

[Gavinwj]

Brad Brunet wrote:

> A 70k ish file is now 194k. The colour is really a costly frill in my books.

I much prefer it over b/w. It's clearer.

Gavin

[Middle Earth PBM Games]

We're cutting it back again v. shortly. And improving the b& w
printing.. Work in progress.. :-)

Clint

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[Richard Farrer]

As I see it, I can download my turn and anyone else's that I want to look at and it will take three times as long just because of the colour map. This is not good. On the other hand, I can download all the xmls in less than a minute and have a combined full colour map with character information where I can look at any individual maps I want. I would think that it would be more sensible to consider not printing the maps in the pdfs at all to save size, rather than making them more complex.

Given that the maps are no longer vital and the character pictures are nice but don't really add anything to the game I would like to see the option of getting a text version of the pdfs for those of us still not on broadband.

Richard
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We're cutting it back again v. shortly. And improving the b& w
printing.. Work in progress.. :-)

Clint

At 09:46 02/10/03, you wrote:
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[Gavinwj]

Richard Farrer wrote:

> I can download all the xmls in less than a minute and have a combined full
> colour map with character information where I can look at any individual maps
> I want. I would think that it would be more sensible to consider not printing
> the maps in the pdfs at all to save size, rather than making them more
> complex.

That only works if you can use Palantir...

As someone might have once said, you can please all the people some of the
time, you can please some of the people all the time, but you can't please
all the people all the time. Personally, I salute Clint and company's
continued efforts at improving their product whilst other PBM enterprises
seem all too content just to sit on their butts and take the money.

As for printing... Nowadays, it's actually becoming harder and harder to
find a pure black and white printer. Colour printers are cheaper and cheaper
all the time. Colour, properly done, contributes far more information than
symbols, so the more MEPBM goes that route, the better.

As an aside, I find it interesting that no-one has asked about players
receiving printed turns through the mail and how this affects them...

Gavin

[Middle Earth PBM Games]

>Clint, is it possible for Harle to give players the option of colour or b/w?

Not at present. It's something we'll look at later. One step at a
time. Note we're changing the colour scheme slightly so that you can print
in b&w and it be as clear as before.

Clint

>Richard.

[Middle Earth PBM Games]

>As an aside, I find it interesting that no-one has asked about players
>receiving printed turns through the mail and how this affects them...

Sorry I don't understand. Do you mean players who play by post?

Clint

[Gavinwj]

Middle Earth PBM Games wrote:

>> As an aside, I find it interesting that no-one has asked about players
>> receiving printed turns through the mail and how this affects them...
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> Sorry I don't understand. Do you mean players who play by post?

Less than a year ago, the big (and agitated) debate was between postal
players and email players. The fact that the current debate is all about
colour versus black and white maps shows how quickly and how far we've moved
on: the assumption seems to be that everyone now plays by email and no
mention has been made of traditional paper.

I just thought it was interesting how attitudes have unfolded.

Gavin

[Brad Brunet]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gavinwj" <gavinwj@...>

> Less than a year ago, the big (and agitated) debate was between postal
> players and email players. The fact that the current debate is all about
> colour versus black and white maps shows how quickly and how far we've
moved
> on: the assumption seems to be that everyone now plays by email and no
> mention has been made of traditional paper.
>
> I just thought it was interesting how attitudes have unfolded.
>
> Gavin


What are you talking about? This is an email group...where are the postal
players on this list..? Isn't there a fundamental contradiction there...?
;-)

Brad

[Ovatha Easterling]

Not if you are printing in black and white. Somr FP 'rings' tend to
disappear in the background clutter.

>From: Gavinwj <gavinwj@...>
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>To: <mepbmlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com>
>Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Colour Maps
>Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 14:10:51 +0200
>
>Brad Brunet wrote:
>
> > A 70k ish file is now 194k. The colour is really a costly frill in my
>books.
>
>I much prefer it over b/w. It's clearer.
>
>Gavin
>