RE: [mepbmlist] Re: Idea for end of game

[Kenneth Weed]

It would seem to me, realistically, that it wouldnt take all that much time.
I mean, assuming the xmls are kept, kept in organized folders. It should
take perhaps 2 minutes to generate the files necessary, but the question is,
do you just do the last turn? the entire game? and how do you send it? I
see the "OK I got the file, now what..." being the big one...that could be a
pretty big email, and may actually exceed attachment restrictions on some
email servers...

-Ken

>From: cameyer@...
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>To: mepbmlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
>Subject: [mepbmlist] Re: Idea for end of game
>Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 17:27:23 -0000
>
>
>Although I would love to see the whole game, I am thinking that they
>are only refering to importing the last turns information.
>
>I personally would love to see any complete picture possible (either
>all or just the last turn).
>
>--- In mepbmlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, enafos@a... wrote:
> > I can see this being very nice for the players to have an final
>picture, but wouldn't this be alot of work for ME, especially if its
>a long game.
>
>
>
>

[John Briggs]

Yeah, that was going to be my comment. With
permission from the players in the game, yes I would
be interested in seeing the map

JB

--- ME Games Ltd <me@...> wrote:

> Note it would just be the map. Not that big a file
> and we could send it
> out. We'd have to have permission from the players
> to do this though.
>
> Clint
>
> It would seem to me, realistically, that it wouldnt
> take all that much time.
> > I mean, assuming the xmls are kept, kept in
> organized folders. It should
> >take perhaps 2 minutes to generate the files
> necessary, but the question is,
> >do you just do the last turn? the entire game? and
> how do you send it? I
> >see the "OK I got the file, now what..." being the
> big one...that could be a
> >pretty big email, and may actually exceed
> attachment restrictions on some
> >email servers...
> >
> >-Ken
> >
> > >From: cameyer@...
> > >Reply-To: mepbmlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
> > >To: mepbmlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
> > >Subject: [mepbmlist] Re: Idea for end of game
> > >Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 17:27:23 -0000
> > >
> > >
> > >Although I would love to see the whole game, I am
> thinking that they
> > >are only refering to importing the last turns
> information.
> > >
> > >I personally would love to see any complete
> picture possible (either
> > >all or just the last turn).
> > >
> > >--- In mepbmlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, enafos@a...
> wrote:
> > > > I can see this being very nice for the players
> to have an final
> > >picture, but wouldn't this be alot of work for
> ME, especially if its
> > >a long game.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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[Kenneth Weed]

Might be fun to see then.

>From: ME Games Ltd <me@...>
>Reply-To: mepbmlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
>To: mepbmlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
>Subject: RE: [mepbmlist] Re: Idea for end of game
>Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 17:41:05 +0000
>
>Note it would just be the map. Not that big a file and we could send it
>out. We'd have to have permission from the players to do this though.
>
>Clint
>
>It would seem to me, realistically, that it wouldnt take all that much
>time.
> > I mean, assuming the xmls are kept, kept in organized folders. It
>should
> >take perhaps 2 minutes to generate the files necessary, but the question
>is,
> >do you just do the last turn? the entire game? and how do you send it?
>I
> >see the "OK I got the file, now what..." being the big one...that could
>be a
> >pretty big email, and may actually exceed attachment restrictions on some
> >email servers...
> >
> >-Ken
> >
> > >From: cameyer@...
> > >Reply-To: mepbmlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
> > >To: mepbmlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
> > >Subject: [mepbmlist] Re: Idea for end of game
> > >Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 17:27:23 -0000
> > >
> > >
> > >Although I would love to see the whole game, I am thinking that they
> > >are only refering to importing the last turns information.
> > >
> > >I personally would love to see any complete picture possible (either
> > >all or just the last turn).
> > >
> > >--- In mepbmlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, enafos@a... wrote:
> > > > I can see this being very nice for the players to have an final
> > >picture, but wouldn't this be alot of work for ME, especially if its
> > >a long game.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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[ME Games Ltd]

My error - not 5 months ago, last month. (Misread that)... apologies.

Clint


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[John Choules]

Do you share your pdf's and xml's with your team
mates? If yes, what difference does sharing the final
maps with the whole board and, or opposing team?

JCC

--- Torvanus <torvanus@...> wrote:

>
> --- In mepbmlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, Drukarzun
> <drukarzun@y...> wrote:
> > Clint,
> >
> > I am categorically, absolutely opposed to this
> idea. Players
> already have the option of swapping PDFs and XMLs
> with their
> opposition if they so choose. Some games, I
> wouldn't mind sharing;
> other games, maybe I had a few tricks up my sleeve
> that I wouldn't
> want the opposition to know about. A GM-created,
> final palantir map
> is an idea that needs to go away.
> >
> > Drew Carson
>
>
> What he said! Wow, someone agrees with me ;)
>
>
>
>
>
>

[Mele]

We "choose" to share .pdf's with teamates. How can you not see the difference? I don't pay $7.60 US to instruct someone else... though I do pay it to school them :P

If you want to build a comprehensive map, ask each nation for a copy of their .xml and, if they give it, build the map. It is that simple.

Jason Mele
----- Original Message -----
From: John Choules
To: mepbmlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Re: Idea for end of game

Do you share your pdf's and xml's with your team
mates? If yes, what difference does sharing the final
maps with the whole board and, or opposing team?

JCC


--- Torvanus <torvanus@...> wrote:

>
> --- In mepbmlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, Drukarzun
> <drukarzun@y...> wrote:
> > Clint,
> >
> > I am categorically, absolutely opposed to this
> idea. Players
> already have the option of swapping PDFs and XMLs
> with their
> opposition if they so choose. Some games, I
> wouldn't mind sharing;
> other games, maybe I had a few tricks up my sleeve
> that I wouldn't
> want the opposition to know about. A GM-created,
> final palantir map
> is an idea that needs to go away.
> >
> > Drew Carson
>
>
> What he said! Wow, someone agrees with me ;)
>
>
>
>
>
>

[Drukarzun]

Yes, I almost always share my files with team mates. The difference is that I share my information with whom I choose. An argument could be made that all the info really belongs to ME Games, but my feeling is that I bought and paid for it myslef. However, after Clint's first post, he later said he would need the players' permission to create and distribute the maps. I can live with that, knowing I had a potential veto, as I think most players could.

John Choules <chuck_john_61853@...> wrote:Do you share your pdf's and xml's with your team
mates? If yes, what difference does sharing the final
maps with the whole board and, or opposing team?

JCC

--- Torvanus <torvanus@...> wrote:

>
> --- In mepbmlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, Drukarzun
> <drukarzun@y...> wrote:
> > Clint,
> >
> > I am categorically, absolutely opposed to this
> idea. Players
> already have the option of swapping PDFs and XMLs
> with their
> opposition if they so choose. Some games, I
> wouldn't mind sharing;
> other games, maybe I had a few tricks up my sleeve
> that I wouldn't
> want the opposition to know about. A GM-created,
> final palantir map
> is an idea that needs to go away.
> >
> > Drew Carson
>
>
> What he said! Wow, someone agrees with me ;)
>
>
>
>
>
>

[John Choules]

It's not that I don't see the difference, between
choice etc...., I just don't see why it's such a big
deal to share the info after a game is over.

Anyway, people would probably find out their really
not as original in their playing a nation as they
would like to think they are! ;-)

JCC


--- Mele <necron99@...> wrote:

> We "choose" to share .pdf's with teamates. How can
> you not see the difference? I don't pay $7.60 US to
> instruct someone else... though I do pay it to
> school them :P
>
> If you want to build a comprehensive map, ask each
> nation for a copy of their .xml and, if they give
> it, build the map. It is that simple.
>
> Jason Mele
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Choules
> To: mepbmlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 3:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Re: Idea for end of game
>
>
> Do you share your pdf's and xml's with your team
> mates? If yes, what difference does sharing the
> final
> maps with the whole board and, or opposing team?
>
> JCC
>
>
> --- Torvanus <torvanus@...> wrote:
>
> >
> > --- In mepbmlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, Drukarzun
> > <drukarzun@y...> wrote:
> > > Clint,
> > >
> > > I am categorically, absolutely opposed to this
> > idea. Players
> > already have the option of swapping PDFs and
> XMLs
> > with their
> > opposition if they so choose. Some games, I
> > wouldn't mind sharing;
> > other games, maybe I had a few tricks up my
> sleeve
> > that I wouldn't
> > want the opposition to know about. A
> GM-created,
> > final palantir map
> > is an idea that needs to go away.
> > >
> > > Drew Carson
> >
> >
> > What he said! Wow, someone agrees with me ;)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>

[Gavinwj]

Since you're not giving out any player details, why would you be asking them
for permission? Giving out the end map would be like given out a game report
or Rumours from the Front in Flagship, no?

Gavin

John Briggs wrote:

> With
> permission from the players in the game, yes I would
> be interested in seeing the map