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John Seals

2nd February 2008, 12:24 PM

The answer to your question is YES. The orders are
processed in that order.
If there are no units for you to buy then you can't
buy any since the supply that your ally will be
selling won't become available until at least order
320. I hope that helps.

John

--- mongo1973it <robertoalidori@...> wrote:

> Let's suppose I need timber as soon as possible, but
> there are no
> units available on the market.
> If a teammate of mine sells it, can I buy it (order
> 315)??
> Does it apply also to order 310??
>
> In other words: does buy/sell orders happens in
> sequence (first 310,
> then 315, then 320 and so on) or at the same time??
>
> Thx
>
>
>

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zzeeadur@...

2nd February 2008, 12:24 PM

GREAT question, I was just asking the same thing...

Bye.

@ Mongo1973- ....and males sons ;)))

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>In other words: does buy/sell orders happens in sequence (first 310, 
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> 
>Thx 
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Ovatha Easterling

2nd February 2008, 12:24 PM

A famous Brit ME player once insisted to me that a named British GM told him
that buys and sells were pooled and you could indeed buy things that were
being sold that turn. I am a skeptic.

Computers are stupid and proceed in sequence. Before Harley assumed this
game, back in the GSI days, I tested that possibility several times and it
was not factual THEN. I have not tested it recently. It was my practice to
test something every game, say threatening camps with commaders sans army,
just to find out where the boundries were. If you CAN pool products NOW
then it has been changed.

Harley has stated several times in public that no source code changes will
be made. I'm sure they are aware of the hazards of untruths to their
customers. Stassun and Feilds just kept their mouths shut. Hence, I
disbeleive the pooling claim.
Ed Mills

>From: "Benjamin M. Shushan" <bshushan@...>
>Reply-To: mepbmlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
>To: mepbmlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
>Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Market question
>Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 13:14:39 -0400
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>The long-time working theory here is "no" you can only buy what's
>available at the time of the 310/315 order. Among many other reasons,
>if this were not the case, buyouts could not be "spiked" (teams would
>just "overbuy").
>
>As for "saving an order" - that's not necessarily true. Unless all of
>the product is in one pc, the tranferring nation would have to 947
>_then_ 948. In that case, it'd be the same number of orders for the
>team (instead of one nation buying and one selling you have one nation
>doing 2 orders), but that nation may not have 2 orders (and the 947 has
>to be from the cap - the 948 has to be from either the cap or the pc
>where it's consolidated during the 947 order).
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>There's also the "transaction costs" to think of. Even if you could
>sell in the 320/325 and buy those units in the 310/315, the difference
>in cost is likely to be more than the 9% lost in transfer (tho' of
>course if there's a 947 then a 948, there's double transfer costs ... so
>this gets more complicated to figure out ... but the point is that
>there's usually a substantial "spread" on the buy and sell prices in the
>market - you'd have to absorb that cost as well if you tried to use the
>market as the "means of delivery" - which you can't do anyway!).
>
>Hth.
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>Gavin Wynford-Jones wrote:
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> >If you need it, and your team mate has it, why not simply arrange a
> >transfer between the two of you? You save an order and there's no
> >risk that an enemy will get their buy order processed before yours
> >and thus nab that valuable timber.
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> >Gavin
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> >On 20 Jul 2005, at 13:59, mongo1973it wrote:
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> >>Let's suppose I need timber as soon as possible, but there are no
> >>units available on the market.
> >>If a teammate of mine sells it, can I buy it (order 315)??
> >>Does it apply also to order 310??
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> >>In other words: does buy/sell orders happens in sequence (first 310,
> >>then 315, then 320 and so on) or at the same time??
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> >>Thx
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