Re: [mepbmlist] Re: Locating Dragon (#430)

[Adrian Sheridan]

Go the LCT path. Get a good mage, give it an artii.
For freep, u got some time. Dragons show up t4-5 so u got time to learn the spell.
With a decent mage with an artii bolted on you'll be fine. In reality it's not a real aely game ploy.
Easier, put camps in the mts and watch for messages. Mages doing LAT, when u got the good stuff u can afford to waste a mage or two to track dragons ;)

Adrian

--- tonyz (AT) eskimo (DOT) com wrote:

From: Tony Zbaraschuk <tonyz (AT) eskimo (DOT) com>
To: mepbmlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Re: Locating Dragon (#430)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:15:25 -0800

On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 11:01:31PM -0000, brydges123 wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have heard of this, but do not know if anyone has tried it.
>
> It has been suggested that you transfer a combat artifact +500 or
> something to the dragon when under your employ. When the dragon
> flies off after the army is destroyed, certain time passes, ect...
> then you do a locate artifact true spell to locate the dragon.
>
> It seams realistic that this could work.
>
> Does anyone of this working?

I understand the dragons drop the artifacts in a fairly short time.


Tony Z

Thanks,
>
> Steve
>
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> --- In mepbmlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, Tony Zbaraschuk <tonyz@...> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 15, 2007 at 04:10:57PM -0000, ymrian wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I´m newbie to this game and after some search I haven´t been able
> to
> > > find out a a piece of information so I do hope someone over here
> can
> > > help me:
> > >
> > > can I use the spell #430 "Reveal Character True" to find a Dragon?
> >
> > I have seen it work, but rarely.
> >
> > > I think it is possible but the difficulty is increased, if it is
> so,
> > > any idea of the mage rank necessary to get a fair chance of
> success?
> >
> > The only time I've ever seen it work was by an M70+ mage. Not to
> say
> > that a lower-ranking would could not succeed,b ut I've never seen it
> > done.
> >
> >
> > Tony Z
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In the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing;
there was light and high beauty forever beyond its reach.
--J.R.R. Tolkien

[John Seals]

Thomas,
That tactic was fixed a few years ago. You can no longer transfer
artifacts to NPC's to track them.

John

--- Thomas Crane <blackwidow169@...> wrote:

> I tried it and found that I could not transfer the artifact to that
> character...???
>
> Thomas
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tony Zbaraschuk
> To: mepbmlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 11:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Re: Locating Dragon (#430)
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 11:01:31PM -0000, brydges123 wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I have heard of this, but do not know if anyone has tried it.
> >
> > It has been suggested that you transfer a combat artifact +500 or
> > something to the dragon when under your employ. When the dragon
> > flies off after the army is destroyed, certain time passes, ect...
> > then you do a locate artifact true spell to locate the dragon.
> >
> > It seams realistic that this could work.
> >
> > Does anyone of this working?
>
>
>
>


My ICQ number is: 39507873

[Thomas Crane]

John

That was what I believed when it did not work.

Thanks

Thomas

----- Original Message -----
From: John Seals
To: mepbmlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 2:17 AM
Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Re: Locating Dragon (#430)

Thomas,
That tactic was fixed a few years ago. You can no longer transfer
artifacts to NPC's to track them.

John

[John Seals]

Jesper,
Good question. Never tried that. Go ahead and try it though I doubt
it would work. You can have two possible outcomes; Either it works
and the dragon gains the artifact OR the artifact is dropped in the
hex. (I think the second option most likely) My rationale is that the
easiest way to prevent artifacts from being transferred to any dragons
would be a simple code fix saying that said dragon already had six
artifacts and couldn't hold any more. By doing that it would prevent
any transfers or transfers by the death of a challenger. Understand?

John




--- Jesper Lyster <jesper@...> wrote:

> What about challenging the dragon (and losing) that way the dragon
> gains the artifacts.... or do they ?
>
> regards
> Jesper
>
> >
> > John
> >
> > That was what I believed when it did not work.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Thomas
>
>
>
>


My ICQ number is: 39507873

[Adrian Sheridan]

I am still scratching my head as to why???? Just go the LCT method.
Here we are talking about sacrificing a character and artiis just to 'track' a dragon and ONLY one dragon.
For a lesser effort, just train a mage, give the mage an artii (which you get to keep) and you can LCT on ANY named dragon. This whole thing seems to have become really complicated for not a difficult task

Adrian

--- John_Seals@... wrote:

From: John Seals <John_Seals@...>
To: mepbmlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Re: Locating Dragon (#430)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 06:57:00 -0800 (PST)

Jesper,
Good question. Never tried that. Go ahead and try it though I doubt
it would work. You can have two possible outcomes; Either it works
and the dragon gains the artifact OR the artifact is dropped in the
hex. (I think the second option most likely) My rationale is that the
easiest way to prevent artifacts from being transferred to any dragons
would be a simple code fix saying that said dragon already had six
artifacts and couldn't hold any more. By doing that it would prevent
any transfers or transfers by the death of a challenger. Understand?

John




--- Jesper Lyster <jesper@...> wrote:

> What about challenging the dragon (and losing) that way the dragon
> gains the artifacts.... or do they ?
>
> regards
> Jesper
>
> >
> > John
> >
> > That was what I believed when it did not work.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Thomas
>
>
>
>


My ICQ number is: 39507873

[Tomás Ribeiro]

UHAUHAUAHUAUHAHUAHUAHU
that was exacly what i was wondering about :P

2007/2/1, Adrian Sheridan <morgoth@...>:
>
> I am still scratching my head as to why???? Just go the LCT method.
> Here we are talking about sacrificing a character and artiis just to
> 'track' a dragon and ONLY one dragon.
> For a lesser effort, just train a mage, give the mage an artii (which you
> get to keep) and you can LCT on ANY named dragon. This whole thing seems to
> have become really complicated for not a difficult task
>
> Adrian
>
> --- John_Seals@... <John_Seals%40yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> From: John Seals <John_Seals@... <John_Seals%40yahoo.com>>
> To: mepbmlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com <mepbmlist%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Re: Locating Dragon (#430)
> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 06:57:00 -0800 (PST)
>
> Jesper,
> Good question. Never tried that. Go ahead and try it though I doubt
> it would work. You can have two possible outcomes; Either it works
> and the dragon gains the artifact OR the artifact is dropped in the
> hex. (I think the second option most likely) My rationale is that the
> easiest way to prevent artifacts from being transferred to any dragons
> would be a simple code fix saying that said dragon already had six
> artifacts and couldn't hold any more. By doing that it would prevent
> any transfers or transfers by the death of a challenger. Understand?
>
> John
>
> --- Jesper Lyster <jesper@... <jesper%40jesperlyster.dk>>
> wrote:
>
> > What about challenging the dragon (and losing) that way the dragon
> > gains the artifacts.... or do they ?
> >
> > regards
> > Jesper
> >
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > That was what I believed when it did not work.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Thomas
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> My ICQ number is: 39507873
>
>

[Racz]

This is based on the assumption that Locating a NPC is harder than Locating
a low power artifact. Sure it is expensive to lose a character like that,
but for the FP that can only recruit 2 dragons it can make a lot of
difference (especially since the FP normally have a lot of enemy character
to track).

One thing I was also wondering are dragons wich are recruited by giving
artifacts, do they keep it? Or the artifact is kept where the dragon was
recruited?

Regards,
André Rácz

On 2/1/07, Tomás Ribeiro <malkavianorlz@...> wrote:
>
> UHAUHAUAHUAUHAHUAHUAHU
> that was exacly what i was wondering about :P
>
> 2007/2/1, Adrian Sheridan <morgoth@...<morgoth%40aussiemail..com.au>
> >:
> >
> > I am still scratching my head as to why???? Just go the LCT method.
> > Here we are talking about sacrificing a character and artiis just to
> > 'track' a dragon and ONLY one dragon.
> > For a lesser effort, just train a mage, give the mage an artii (which
> you
> > get to keep) and you can LCT on ANY named dragon. This whole thing seems
> to
> > have become really complicated for not a difficult task
> >
> > Adrian
> >
> > --- John_Seals@... <John_Seals%40yahoo.com> <John_Seals%
> 40yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: John Seals <John_Seals@... <John_Seals%40yahoo.com><John_Seals%
> 40yahoo.com>>
> > To: mepbmlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com <mepbmlist%40yahoogroups.com><mepbmlist%40yahoog
> roups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Re: Locating Dragon (#430)
> > Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 06:57:00 -0800 (PST)
> >
> > Jesper,
> > Good question. Never tried that. Go ahead and try it though I doubt
> > it would work. You can have two possible outcomes; Either it works
> > and the dragon gains the artifact OR the artifact is dropped in the
> > hex. (I think the second option most likely) My rationale is that the
> > easiest way to prevent artifacts from being transferred to any dragons
> > would be a simple code fix saying that said dragon already had six
> > artifacts and couldn't hold any more. By doing that it would prevent
> > any transfers or transfers by the death of a challenger. Understand?
> >
> > John
> >
> > --- Jesper Lyster <jesper@... <jesper%40jesperlyster.dk><jesper%40jesperlys
> ter.dk>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > What about challenging the dragon (and losing) that way the dragon
> > > gains the artifacts.... or do they ?
> > >
> > > regards
> > > Jesper
> > >
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > > That was what I believed when it did not work.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Thomas
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > My ICQ number is: 39507873
> >
> >